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My guess would be those who think they've learned it all once they've soloed.
Or those who know it all before they solo.
I had, as an instructor in the F-16 FTU (the schoolhouse) a couple of students who, because they had MS Flight Sim or similar, knew everything about everything. Which they didn't. One washed out.
I have been told by a CFI friend from college (probably close to 10K hours now) that the worst students are the arrogant know-it-alls when it comes to training, they put themselves into situations from which they can't get out. However, I also knew, before I joined the Air Force, some very timid, hesitant novice pilots. They can be equally dangerous because they may freeze up or fail to act when something goes awry. The couple I did know back then never finished training.
One of my CFI's had a student that froze up, and wouldn't release the yoke in an aggravated stall, then spin scenario. The Instructor had to punch the guy to get him to give up control of the plane, or they would have both died. Yeah, the arrogant ones must be a pain in the *ss too.
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Or those who know it all before they solo.
I had, as an instructor in the F-16 FTU (the schoolhouse) a couple of students who, because they had MS Flight Sim or similar, knew everything about everything. Which they didn't. One washed out.
I have been told by a CFI friend from college (probably close to 10K hours now) that the worst students are the arrogant know-it-alls when it comes to training, they put themselves into situations from which they can't get out. However, I also knew, before I joined the Air Force, some very timid, hesitant novice pilots. They can be equally dangerous because they may freeze up or fail to act when something goes awry. The couple I did know back then never finished training.
Yeah, they're out there!
I had been trying to generate some interest in forming a flying club in my area with little success. One of the responses I got to a Craigslist posting was from a 23 year old who told me "I know everything there is to know about light aircraft". I couldn't hit delete fast enough.
Two of the CFIs I spent the most time with were both ex-USAF (C-141s and B-52s respectively) and both furloughed Eastern Airline pilots. One day I asked one of them if it wasn't a bit boring in the C-150s after some of the things he'd flown, his response was he continued to learn new things virtually every flight he took. He was a wonderful instructor to fly with.
I had been trying to generate some interest in forming a flying club in my area with little success. One of the responses I got to a Craigslist posting was from a 23 year old who told me "I know everything there is to know about light aircraft". I couldn't hit delete fast enough.
Two of the CFIs I spent the most time with were both ex-USAF (C-141s and B-52s respectively) and both furloughed Eastern Airline pilots. One day I asked one of them if it wasn't a bit boring in the C-150s after some of the things he'd flown, his response was he continued to learn new things virtually every flight he took. He was a wonderful instructor to fly with.
When I was a young lieutenant in the A-10, the day I was certified as a flight lead my ops officer stated "Every time you fly, strive to learn something new, good or bad. Otherwise the mission has been a waste of JP-4." He was a great man, former Misty FAC in Vietnam, full of sage advice. I took it to heart, and found I could sometimes learn from the young guys or even from students.
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When I was a young lieutenant in the A-10, the day I was certified as a flight lead my ops officer stated "Every time you fly, strive to learn something new, good or bad. Otherwise the mission has been a waste of JP-4." He was a great man, former Misty FAC in Vietnam, full of sage advice. I took it to heart, and found I could sometimes learn from the young guys or even from students.
Good teachers are a joy to study with, bad ones the pits. I once had a calculus professor who though brilliant, would fill three blackboards going through one problem and be completely unable to understand why we all hadn't been born knowing what he'd just done.
I always tried to learn something new during every flight and feel I was lucky to draw some really good teachers. I also find it a good plan to try and learn something new everyday, if nothing else it helps keep the dogs of boredom away.
I know the meaning of FAC but does 'Misty' have some significance?
My father-in-law flew F-5s during that war, and spent 12 years in a POW camp after the war ended.
Thanks for that! Interesting piece.
I never realized POWs were imprisoned so long after the war, was that an unusual circumstance or?
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