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Old 12-18-2018, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Benito Juarez International Airport increased by 3.3 million annual passengers from last year, and Toluca can only handle 6 million. So by some difficult calculations, we can see that Toluca will not be able to handle the excess for more than two years.

Mexico City International Airport is twice the size of Cancún International Airport which is twice the size of Guadalajara International Airport. The next largest are Monterrey International Airport and Tijuana International Airport.

The low-cost carriers are trying to use GDL and MTY to transfer passengers so that flights to MEX can concentrate on "origin and destination" passengers. But obviously given the economic landscape of Mexico, it is much easier to fly in and out of Mexico City airport.

Middle-class people in Mexico are much more likely to travel inter city on premium class buses, a mode of transportation which is very rare in the USA. Jet travel was dominated by international flights for a long time. I am afraid that without a new airport at least one of the three major low-cost carriers will declare bankruptcy.
Yes - Toluca Airport is only a band-aid, and an even shorter term one than expected! So MEX can't really grow or add more flights then. Which will hinder the ability of the LCCs ability to expand, given the preponderance of Mexico City's economic, political and cultural clout.
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Old 12-19-2018, 12:27 AM
 
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It is symbolic but has nothing to do with the United States. The Mexican Presidential 787 is one of the most expensive planes in the world which is a slap in the face to the largely lower classes who elected the current president.
I think the concept of being able to run the government from the air was first developed in the USA during the Reagan era. It resulted in the purchase of the two identical B747s which were outfitted with bedrooms, shower, conference rooms and the latest in communication gear along with safety features like the ability to refuel inflight.

It is inevitable that every head of state aircraft in any country since that point is inevitably compared to the VC-25. Obviously the President can fly nonstop to every European capital and most major Asian capitals. Refueling is necessary only for South Africa, India, Singapore and Sydney.

The main Presidential aircraft used by the Brazilian Government is a modified Airbus A319, designated by the Brazilian Air Force as VC-1A and officially christened as the "Santos-Dumont", after the Brazilian aviation pioneer. The VC-1A is used for transporting the President on international medium-range trave. The A319 cannot fly nonstop from Brasília (BSB) to Lisbon (LIS)
4520 miles so the government has rented a Boeing 767 from 2017 to 2025.

Argentina operates a Boeing 757-200 designated Tango 01. Since Buenos Aires (EZE) - Madrid (MAD) is 6252 miles, the President simply assumes that a refueling stop in Canada will always be required to get to Europe.

For Mexico City (MEX) - Madrid (MAD) (5642 miles) the President of Mexico must refuel in Canada with the B757. To fly to Asia he must refuel in Alaska. While these stops were standard in the 1980s, he wanted a plane that he thought was more worthy of Mexico's standing in the world.

What the British Prime Minister and the British royalty does is simply to lease a jet for whatever trip they are doing. Clearly the jet is transportation and you don't expect to run the government in time of war from a leased jet. I suspect that eventually, AMLO will concede that he has to charter jets and boarding a commercial jet with security and a full staff is impossible over the long haul.

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Old 12-19-2018, 12:51 AM
 
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Yes - Toluca Airport is only a band-aid and an even shorter term one than expected! So MEX can't really grow or add more flights then. Which will hinder the ability of the LCCs ability to expand, given the preponderance of Mexico City's economic, political and cultural clout.
São Paulo-Guarulhos International Airport was actually the busiest airport in Latin America until Mexico City zoomed past it in the last three years. Presumably, it will return to the #1 rank.

I think Volaris will be alright since they have so much business flying to the USA from smaller Mexico airports. But Interjet relies heavily on business travelers from Mexico City.

VivaAerobús started out in Monterrey, and they may simply have to reign back their growth plans. VivaAerobús has a single owner, IAMSA, now. GRUPO IAMSA

VivaAerobús only serves 4 USA cities, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Houston and Newark.
Interjet serves 13 destinations in USA and Canada and 4 more in Central America and South America.
Volaris serves 25 destinations in USA and 4 in Central America.
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Old 12-19-2018, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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São Paulo-Guarulhos International Airport was actually the busiest airport in Latin America until Mexico City zoomed past it in the last three years. Presumably, it will return to the #1 rank.

I think Volaris will be alright since they have so much business flying to the USA from smaller Mexico airports. But Interjet relies heavily on business travelers from Mexico City.

VivaAerobús started out in Monterrey, and they may simply have to reign back their growth plans. VivaAerobús has a single owner, IAMSA, now. GRUPO IAMSA

VivaAerobús only serves 4 USA cities, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, Houston and Newark.
Interjet serves 13 destinations in USA and Canada and 4 more in Central America and South America.
Volaris serves 25 destinations in USA and 4 in Central America.
I flew through GRU a couple of years ago and know it was and is busy - wasn't aware that MEX surpassed it recently.

Volaris flies over to where I live - the SF Bay Area - they do a lot of business here.
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