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I wonder if it might happen sooner with smaller planes on shorter flights?
Airlines Under Pressure to Cut Emissions
“It’s a big crisis, it’s a pressing crisis — a lot needs to be done soon,” said Jagoda Egeland, an aviation policy expert at the International Transport Forum, a unit of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. “It’s a hard-to-abate sector. It will always emit some carbon.” https://orbemnews.com/a-big-climate-...utions-planes/
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simply use bio-fuel, no equipment modfications / infrastructure changes required. (BTDT since 1976)
Algae is far preferred for Jet A than AG crops, many companies working on this solution (Including a Bill Gates funded project), and several transcontinental flights have proven validity (for nearly 10 yrs)
Should the biofuel industry be far smarter then the EV industry... they would focus on higher volume fuel users / commercial applications and leap frog the silly / fickle consumer market that has negligable effect on overall WW emissions. Consider how many tons of fuel is used on each flight.. ~100,000 flights / day WW. Those of us driving 50 mpg vehicles 20 min / day are not heavy emission hitters. Trains, trucking, contruction commercial marine fuel usage...target something of significance, build an economical and practical solution... then Joe Average customer benefits AFTER the capital expenses / distribution is established and highest emission goals are achieved.
Current regulations require that at least 50% of aviation fuel be kerosene or gasoline in the mix used. The article linked is about United committed to buying 9 Million gallons, that is less than 1/2 a percent of the 2B gallons of fuel that they buy a year.
Bio fuels are not used in a significant way for aircraft because of expense, efficiency and availability. Bio fuels are significantly more than kerosene, have less energy (energy is a bigger deal when weight is an issue) and limited availability - Bio fuels such as algae still emit carbon, just much less so not possible to be completely carbon neutral using that method. Algae is not likely to be able to cover the need even in the future - according to the experts.
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The European aerospace group is part-financing the Munich Technical University project to grow algae for biofuel and, although commercial production is a long way off, hopes are high. Thomas Brueck, Munich TU’s associate professor of industrial biocatalysis, says that the biofuel from algaculture could cater for 3-5 percent of jetfuel needs by about 2050.
The EU has a goal of being carbon neutral by 2050 - that will be difficult.
I wonder if it might happen sooner with smaller planes on shorter flights?
Airlines Under Pressure to Cut Emissions
“It’s a big crisis, it’s a pressing crisis — a lot needs to be done soon,” said Jagoda Egeland, an aviation policy expert at the International Transport Forum, a unit of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. “It’s a hard-to-abate sector. It will always emit some carbon.” https://orbemnews.com/a-big-climate-...utions-planes/
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simply use bio-fuel, no equipment modfications / infrastructure changes required. (BTDT since 1976)
Algae is far preferred for Jet A than AG crops, many companies working on this solution (Including a Bill Gates funded project), and several transcontinental flights have proven validity (for nearly 10 yrs)
Should the biofuel industry be far smarter then the EV industry... they would focus on higher volume fuel users / commercial applications and leap frog the silly / fickle consumer market that has negligable effect on overall WW emissions. Consider how many tons of fuel is used on each flight.. ~100,000 flights / day WW. Those of us driving 50 mpg vehicles 20 min / day are not heavy emission hitters. Trains, trucking, contruction commercial marine fuel usage...target something of significance, build an economical and practical solution... then Joe Average customer benefits AFTER the capital expenses / distribution is established and highest emission goals are achieved.
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Originally Posted by ddeemo
Current regulations require that at least 50% of aviation fuel be kerosene or gasoline in the mix used. The article linked is about United committed to buying 9 Million gallons, that is less than 1/2 a percent of the 2B gallons of fuel that they buy a year.
Bio fuels are not used in a significant way for aircraft because of expense, efficiency and availability. Bio fuels are significantly more than kerosene, have less energy (energy is a bigger deal when weight is an issue) and limited availability - Bio fuels such as algae still emit carbon, just much less so not possible to be completely carbon neutral using that method. Algae is not likely to be able to cover the need even in the future - according to the experts.
The EU has a goal of being carbon neutral by 2050 - that will be difficult.
I wonder if the people, organizations, or entities will stop flying until changes are made
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