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Unread 11-14-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Federal Hill, Baltimore
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That may be, but come on- there is such thing as common courtesy.... or there was.
There aren't enough parking spaces. When you "reserve" a spot with your lawn chair that means I can't park. How is that courteous? I see it as selfish.
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Unread 11-14-2011, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Maryland not Murlin
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There aren't enough parking spaces. When you "reserve" a spot with your lawn chair that means I can't park. How is that courteous? I see it as selfish.
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Why is snow some magic exception that changes the rules of city life? Do I get to pick my own magic exceptions?
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This pisses me off. There aren't enough parking spots. You don't get to hold one indefinitely because you had to shovel it out to go to work. It's not your spot. There's all kinds of **** that's inconvenient because of the limited parking. That's life in the city.
The point is that if I was the one who took the time to shovel the darn thing out, I should be the one to park there! Yes, technically it is "nobody's" to own, but seriously, the city does not take the time to clear it out so you if you want one, then shovel your own.

It took me over two hours to shovel out a spot last time I had to do it. After that, I was the one to maintain the darn spot until it stopped snowing at the end of the season. Does that give me ownership? No. But it should give me dibbs since I had the brains to take care of it since the city would not remove the snow close enough to the curb to allow decent parking.
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Unread 11-14-2011, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Federal Hill, Baltimore
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There aren't enough parking spaces. That's why this isn't just a question of being courteous or rewarding your hard work.

I'll make up some numbers to illustrate a point. Let's say there are 100 spaces and 125 cars that park there over the course of a 24 hour period. Obviously, 125 cars can't fit into 100 spaces at the same time. But they can if the need for parking is staggered and the spaces are used efficiently. Efficiently means the space is available to be used while you are gone for 12 hours at your job and eating out for dinner. It's a delicate dance and a strained system breaks down if you think you can reserve a spot to be left vacant and not used for maximum efficiency.

Trying to block a spot is a big F-U to everyone else that you think your selfish needs take precedence. It's amusing to me that this is turned around to be that the courteous act is to block a spot from being used. In a location where parking is overcrowded, there is no justification for it besides selfishness and a disregard for your neighbors.

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Unread 11-14-2011, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Edgemere, Maryland
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There aren't enough parking spaces. When you "reserve" a spot with your lawn chair that means I can't park. How is that courteous? I see it as selfish.
That attitude is out of touch with reality and common sense. Some people have health problems, some are elderly, some have spent their last $15 in spare cash to have a kid shovel the spot out and you are telling me that you, who put forth zero effort to shovel out that spot, get to reap the benefits of their hard work and snatch the spot? How can you be okay with that in good conscious? Come on now. Grab a shovel or pay for someone to dig one out for you.
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Unread 11-14-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: North Baltimore ----> Seattle
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There aren't enough parking spaces.
Where I live, there are plenty. This isn't Federal Hell.
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Unread 11-14-2011, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Bolton Hill
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Marking a spot is lame. You can justify it all you want but it's not yours to claim.

Next time you get mad at the person that's in "your" spot just remember that people remove chairs/cones/garbage that are in the street so don't take it out on the person in "your" spot

Anyone with a car isn't spending their last $15 dollars which is kinda of expensive to get a car shoveled out since those people bury the car in front and back of the car they are digging out. Now that is courtesy to your neighbors.
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Unread 11-14-2011, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Edgemere, Maryland
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Anyone with a car isn't spending their last $15 dollars which is kinda of expensive to get a car shoveled out since those people bury the car in front and back of the car they are digging out. Now that is courtesy to your neighbors.
Funny how you seem to disagree with any point I make. I never said it would be their last $15- I said their last $15 of spare cash. Believe it or not, there are people out there living paycheck to paycheck. Big surprise, I know.

Also, you know that shoveling a spot does not mean burying other cars. It's called mounding snow in the gutter and part of the sidewalk nearest the street. What are people supposed to do by your logic- not dig out at all and lose their job? Stop coming up with BS.
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Unread 11-14-2011, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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There aren't enough parking spaces. That's why this isn't just a question of being courteous or rewarding your hard work.

I'll make up some numbers to illustrate a point. Let's say there are 100 spaces and 125 cars that park there over the course of a 24 hour period. Obviously, 125 cars can't fit into 100 spaces at the same time. But they can if the need for parking is staggered and the spaces are used efficiently. Efficiently means the space is available to be used while you are gone for 12 hours at your job and eating out for dinner. It's a delicate dance and a strained system breaks down if you think you can reserve a spot to be left vacant and not used for maximum efficiency.

Trying to block a spot is a big F-U to everyone else that you think your selfish needs take precedence. It's amusing to me that this is turned around to be that the courteous act is to block a spot from being used. In a location where parking is overcrowded, there is no justification for it besides selfishness and a disregard for your neighbors.
Well said, sir/madam.

Having to dig out a vehicle parked on a public street is just the price of admission. Yes, it is a pain. However, you are the one who chose to live where you live and if that is your reality then that just sucks but it doesn't give you "dibs" just because you dug it out.

Now before you go thinking that I am some kind of suburban elitist snob, I'm not. I lived in the city and I had to deal with the same issue, however, I decided that rather than completely shovel out my car, I only removed enough snow to get out and left the rest for the plows.

Something to think about.
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Unread 11-15-2011, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Federal Hill, Baltimore
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Some people have health problems, some are elderly, some have spent their last $15 in spare cash to have a kid shovel the spot out and you are telling me that you, who put forth zero effort to shovel out that spot, get to reap the benefits of their hard work and snatch the spot?
If only the occasional elderly or sick person did this then it wouldn't be an issue. But all of you able bodied people who selfishly mark your territory have ruined it for them. Good job.

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Grab a shovel or pay for someone to dig one out for you.
How do you think my car got mobile? Do you think other people live in a special land where they didn't get snow? Or are there hordes of people with driveways and garages in the suburbs who come into the city after snow storms to take your spot? Everyone did the same thing you did: they shoveled out their car and then later on they need to find a spot to park. And like every other day, the parking shuffle gets reset. This is just a little justification you can use that you don't get to use the other 364 days of the year to selfishly claim a little advantage for yourself. Oh sorry, not for you. You would never do this. You're only thinking of the elderly and poor, right?

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Unread 11-15-2011, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Edgemere, Maryland
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If only the occasional elderly or sick person did this then it wouldn't be an issue. But all of you able bodied people who selfishly mark your territory have ruined it for them. Good job.
Number one- I don't live in the city and I have my own driveway. Number two- I am disabled, so I wouldn't be part of the "you able bodied people".


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How do you think my car got mobile? Do you think other people live in a special land where they didn't get snow? Or are there hordes of people with driveways and garages in the suburbs who come into the city after snow storms to take your spot? Everyone did the same thing you did: they shoveled out their car and then later on they need to find a spot to park. And like every other day, the parking shuffle gets reset. This is just a little justification you can use that you don't get to use the other 364 days of the year to selfishly claim a little advantage for yourself. Oh sorry, not for you. You would never do this. You're only thinking of the elderly and poor, right?
Again- this isn't about me and I don't live in the city, so I have no horse in the race here- it's not about being selfish (just the opposite)- it really is my opinion. What's so hard about everyone returning to the spot they cleared which is likely the one directly in front of their house during the, what 10 days out of the 365 we get snow per year? The years I lived in the city,for me, it was thinking "****, I better not take this spot because this person either worked hard to clear the spot, could be ill or elderly, or paid someone to do it with money they really don't have". I love how you make this so personal but you know zero about me, my life, or where I live (which is a bit surprising since my location, Edgemere, is posted for all to see in my header for every post). You're making a fool of yourself.
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