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Old 04-22-2012, 08:51 AM
 
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Oh yeah the casino. Yes that would work.
Also, legally they are not going to be able to put housing by the casino. But hopefully all those warehouses on Ostend get developed, which I'm sure they will. I know Hammerjacks is negotiating to buy one and put a music venue in. The warehouse on Ostend and Wicomico was once seen as a spot for a soccer stadium, but anything could be an improvement. The area just needs vibrant bodies for people to feel safer walking from pigtown to Sobo across Ostend.
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Old 04-22-2012, 08:59 AM
 
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Why I Love Pigtown

Here is another good article
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Old 04-23-2012, 06:21 AM
 
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cool, thanks for the insight and articles.

"are you kidding me", you must be quite the ray of sunshine. you do know that just because someone ma not be rich and cannot live around rich people that they as an individual are capable of being a decent member of society. just saying
Huh? (Just saying.)
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Old 04-24-2012, 04:56 PM
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I liked Pigtown, it kind of feels like the crossroads of Baltimore. You will see some CRAZY things. I spent alot of time over in Federal Hill, as the bars in Pigtown are pretty sub-par. The neighborhood could use some sustainable buisnesses and better connectivity to down-town and Federal Hill.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:18 PM
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FWIW, Al Kaline was born and raised in pigtown. (Read no further if you've never heard of Al Kaline.) He went to Southern High School and moved directly from Southern to Detroit at about the same time the Browns came to Balto.

There should be a bronze plaque somewhere in pigtown commemorating Al. He deserves it.

Southern was a gritty place back in the day; I took auto mechanics classes there because my school did not teach it. Fond memories. (But Southern never had a good football team; Patterson Park High was the perennial champions, with Poly and City close behind.)

Just reminiscing.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:21 PM
 
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FWIW, Al Kaline was born and raised in pigtown. (Read no further if you've never heard of Al Kaline.) He went to Southern High School and moved directly from Southern to Detroit at about the same time the Browns came to Balto.

There should be a bronze plaque somewhere in pigtown commemorating Al. He deserves it.

Southern was a gritty place back in the day; I took auto mechanics classes there because my school did not teach it. Fond memories. (But Southern never had a good football team; Patterson Park High was the perennial champions, with Poly and City close behind.)

Just reminiscing.
I can't believe I didn't know al Kaline was a native son. Thanks for the wisdom.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:27 PM
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I can't believe I didn't know al Kaline was a native son. Thanks for the wisdom.
No problem. Thanks for the acknowledgement.

I forgot to add the following to my previous post

Al Kaline Baltimore | Al Kaline was a legend here first - Baltimore Sun
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Old 05-07-2012, 10:22 AM
 
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Hello everyone,

I have noticed a few decent rehab opportunities around Scott St, Hamburg St and Woodward. Is this a decent area to move into? I mean crime wise and potential for growth/investment to get some return on the property.

I lived on Lidenhall in FedHill awhile back and would like to get back into the city without the FedHill price tag.

Thanks
There can be a lot of debate about crime, and while I've not been a crime victim in almost seven years of living in Pigtown I know many neighbors who have. We are leaving Pigtown in a couple of weeks, and I'm very happy, although financially it's ruining us. For us, the biggest problem has been quality of life - last night, for instance, my husband got two hours of sleep because of a screaming match that went on for hours right outside our house. My children have witnessed beatings in the street in the middle of the day, one summer the backyard of the vacant next door was turned into a hobo camp, the task of cleaning litter from the front and back of my house seems endless, my children are routinely awakened by kids running across the rooftops, people bang on my door in the middle of the night looking for the dealers three doors down, we hear gunshots in the middle of the day, etc., etc.

I'm sorry to say that buying in Pigtown was one of the biggest mistakes we've ever made - and we were not city virgins by any means. We had lived in Pigtown for a while when we bought. Although we didn't buy cheap to rehab on our own, many of the rehabs purchased in 2005-2007 have or will go into foreclosure or short sale, so keep that in mind in making your investment decision. The rehabbed property next door to us, for example, sold last year for 60k - and it's a nice house that sold in 2005 for over 200k. You can certainly argue that 200k is overpriced - and I would agree with you - but can you buy a house and rehab it for under 60k? If not, but you'd still like to buy into Pigtown, keep your eye on short sales. You can probably pick something pretty nice for cheap. Heck, my house is nice and will likely be listed as a short sale this summer.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:40 AM
 
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thanks for the reply. I am taking my time for sure, weighing the options.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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Real Estate is only about supply and demand, and there is just too much supply in Pigtown at the moment. With that said, try to get the best deal possible whether it is a renovation project or a rehabbed home at short sale. Once some of the supply goes down, I think houses that were bought for 80k could eventually sell for closer to 150k.

I think the future of Pigtown is a neighborhood were homes are worth around 200k and Federal Hill will be more of a 300-400k neighborhood. Pigtown is an up and coming neighborhood and with that comes interesting characters and nuisances. If it was already Fed Hill, Canton or Fells, you would be paying for that convenience. I do think things will continue to improve and while I don't think it will ever be like Federal Hill, it has the chance to be much nicer than it's status quo.
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