08-16-2017, 08:41 PM
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Baltimore got some good press instead of the usual.
08-16-2017, 09:05 PM
Location: Oroville, California
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I'm so proud of the city of Baltimore and I'm glad the city did this. It should've been done along time ago. I hope the entire country follows Baltimore's actions. Confederate monuments are not only racist but anti-American as well. Those who oppose the removal of the monuments, please learn that the Union won the war and the Confederate army were traitors and terrorists to this country. They should not be celebrated or honored in this great country. We don't put up monuments of Al Qaeda or Isis statues in our public places and the Confederacy should not be an excuse either. The Confederacy is dead! To the victor go the spoils!
Life must be very simple to view events with such black and white blinders. No, I'm not some Confederate apologist, but I know enough of my family's history to understand my great-grandfather in the Alabama Confederate Army was no traitor or terrorist (he was 50 when my grandpa was born and my grandpa was 70 when I was born in 1960 so yeah, I have a great-grandparent who fought in the Civil War). Just a poor tenant farmer caught up in an event vastly bigger than himself or his family. I'm quite proud of his participation in the most important chapter in this country's history. I can be proud of him without sympathizing with the South. I'm also quite happy things turned out the way they did or I would have never been born.
As far as Baltimore's memorials, I had no idea there were even there. I did look them up and two of them were quite beautiful. That one ugly old dude sitting down was no loss though.
Of course the city can do whatever they wish and they should be the only ones weighing in on it. Outside agitators need to go away. I don't quite understand this zero sum proposition regarding Confederate memorials though. Why not just balance them out with memorials and public art commemorating the many great figures in African-American history and the struggles of their people plus Union memorials. You know, have a complete picture of the history of all sides. I'm not sure if its true or not but I read Baltimore's mayor said they would be destroyed, not relocated. That seems a bit of a shame.
08-16-2017, 10:20 PM
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I see some of you self-proclaimed "smart" people either don't know much US history or don't understand it.
How in the world can it be "required to be ignored?" This, especially since America's history books, films, documentaries and museums are full of the history? I don't get that.....
I guess you believe that out of sight = out of mind. That's just not true. America will always have reminder of this history as long as Blacks reside in this country.
08-16-2017, 10:21 PM
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No but the Germans do not keep up monuments of Hitler or Nazi's in public squares nor name their schools after Nazi's in their country either.
^^^^This right here!!!
08-16-2017, 10:23 PM
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^^After what happened in Charlottesville, it was very necessary to move swiftly and under the radar to prevent any White nationalism crazies from mobilizing in Baltimore City. Thumbs up to Pugh.
08-17-2017, 04:02 AM
Location: On the Chesapeake
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How in the world can it be "required to be ignored?" This, especially since America's history books, films, documentaries and museums are full of the history? I don't get that.....
Have you taken a look at the newest editions of US History books used in Maryland schools? The last one, the newest one available bough for the 2013-2014 school year, "rearranged" what was covered to adapt to the new adopted curriculum.
Using WW II as the example, the section on the Japanese internment was longer, with more required supplemental materials available, than the rest of the unit on the war. The second longest was concerning the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The supplementals were mostly dealing with the morality of that.
You see it here in some threads, deliberate changing and misstatements of facets of Maryland history, even recent events, school quality, poverty rates. The whole schmear. I do have to say that it's more prevalent in discussions about Prince George's than Baltimore. This Forum is mostly posters just starting troll threads.
08-17-2017, 05:31 AM
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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^^After what happened in Charlottesville, it was very necessary to move swiftly and under the radar to prevent any White nationalism crazies from mobilizing in Baltimore City. Thumbs up to Pugh.
Oooh, Baltimore would not have let that fly. Can you even imagine a Nazi march on, like, North Ave?
I'm so proud of Baltimore. For once, my city did something right.
08-17-2017, 06:21 AM
Location: Boston
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Baltimore is much more dangerous today than it was during the Civil War. Good job Baltimore!
08-17-2017, 06:31 AM
Location: Towson, MD
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Oooh, Baltimore would not have let that fly. Can you even imagine a Nazi march on, like, North Ave?
I'm so proud of Baltimore. For once, my city did something right.
Don't worry about any alt-right marchers in Baltimore, they are too cowardly to march where there are any actual black people. They marched in Charlottsville, which is 20% black.
Remember the morons a couple years back driving around Dundalk in a pickup with a confederate flag waiving, harassing the few blacks they saw on the street? Those losers didn't have the nerve to try that on North Avenue, Penn. Avenue, or Fulton Street. Cowards, the lot of them.
08-17-2017, 06:37 AM
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Brooks and Johnny (they are like white gods in this town!). smh. I feel you though! Brooks was nice
I will insult anything I deem NEEDS insulting, so Pollack Johnny's, picking crabs and downing fried yard bird with
ketchup/saltnpeppa gulping it down with a high fructose syrupy flavored water is cultural lunacy.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Of course the city can do whatever they wish and they should be the only ones weighing in on it. Outside agitators need to go away. I don't quite understand this zero sum proposition regarding Confederate memorials though. Why not just balance them out with memorials and public art commemorating the many great figures in African-American history and the struggles of their people plus Union memorials. You know, have a complete picture of the history of all sides. I'm not sure if its true or not but I read Baltimore's mayor said they would be destroyed, not relocated. That seems a bit of a shame.
