Modern Baltimore (Queen Anne: condos, high crime, income)

[YASHAYAHU]

Thinking of moving to Baltimore, in a year or 2. I'm into computer science. Computer Forensics to be exact. I was wondering is BALTIMORE growing? Is it trying to compete with cites like Charlotte, Atlanta? Is it growing, building and keeping up with modern technology? Is it stuck in the old steel mill days? Do you see Baltimore really changing in the next ten year? What do you see happening in ten years?

[Digger 68]

Until they figure out why for 80 years the areas that surround the harbor have such high crime, and much of Howard Street looks like a dump I wonder. It's improved a lot in many ways in the last 20 years, especially the last 15, but much of that is it's more affordable to live than in places like Boston, and New York, and Chicago. And who has been coming down here for decades....people from Boston, and New York, and Chicago. Other places as well, but a lot from those places.
Young, educated why come here of all places. I guess your job might have you in DC, and DC is very expensive. Many people from DC have come up here as well. And to funny, Georgia is another place where they are coming from. Is Atlanta getting that expensive.

[lanhvtnymd]

I think for tech it is definitely growing. Literally read an article about this just yesterday. I'll try to remember the source. Not going to lie, I'm not super familiar with computer forensics. Sounds defense oriented. Defense is big in the Baltimore and DC metro regions, also law enforcement.

It's hard for Baltimore to compete with Charlotte and Atlanta because (my opinion of course) people in those states (from leadership to random resident) don't seem to actively divest from those urbanized/urbanizing areas in the same way people in Maryland actively divest from Baltimore AND none of those cities are that close to other major urban areas (Baltimore competes with DC and Philadelphia, and you could probably argue Northern Virginia). When more people feel like Baltimore has value and is worth investing in, it will be a much stronger contender in the region for a place like DC. But Baltimore will always have to make massive gains to stand out next to DC. Could major gains occur in the next decade? Sure. But it would require long-term, visionary, and patient leadership and a willing and patient resident population.

I'm interested in other's thoughts on this though.

[pwduvall]

With the inevitable Hogan reelection, divestment from Baltimore will continue and increase. I do, however, predict that state investment in Baltimore will not go below zero. So, at least we have a baseline! The OP seems to agree with my friends that only successful places should receive investment, and that Baltimore is going to have to figure out how to get rich before it can receive any recognition from the rest of the state. That's a tough climb, but, that is the way it is. The city is going to have to turn boatloads of lemons into tankers full of lemonade. There is no other option.

Most people don't know that the city's population is already getting dramatically more prosperous, growing way more than twice as fast as the rest of the State over the past five years. Education levels are also increasing much faster than in the rest of the state (except Queen Anne's County for some reason.) The problem is that trends, even powerful trends, mean nothing if the city has to catch the rest of the state immediately or it will get put to bed with no dinner. But who needs dinner anyway?

[pwduvall]

It is interesting that the "Innovation Cities" listing just came out. It ranked Baltimore tied for 44th in the world, behind Atlanta, tied for 19th, and ahead of Charlotte, tied for 89th. Anyway, that hardly matters, because Baltimore ranked behind DC, tied for 19th and Philadelphia, tied for 26th. Because Baltimore is behind its neighbors, it is a backwater. And just like the income and education gaps with DC, catching up is hard. By the way, Baltimore is ahead of Philly in income and education. But that doesn't matter either!

[Digger 68]

Originally Posted by pwduvall

It is interesting that the "Innovation Cities" listing just came out. It ranked Baltimore tied for 44th in the world, behind Atlanta, tied for 19th, and ahead of Charlotte, tied for 89th. Anyway, that hardly matters, because Baltimore ranked behind DC, tied for 19th and Philadelphia, tied for 26th. Because Baltimore is behind its neighbors, it is a backwater. And just like the income and education gaps with DC, catching up is hard. By the way, Baltimore is ahead of Philly in income and education. But that doesn't matter either!

Link.....

[pwduvall]

Originally Posted by Digger 68

Link.....

https://www.innovation-cities.com/in...-global/13935/

The standings came from another City-Data thread. I'm not sure exactly how they match up with the scoring in the report.

[Digger 68]

Baltimore moved up 13 spots on that list. The first 20 are the major cities of the world.

[YASHAYAHU]

https://www.innovation-cities.com/in...mericas/13951/

[YASHAYAHU]

is Baltimore all crime? Every conversation about Bmore is thats a bad area. Whats it like in Bmore? Do you see a lot of new business growing? New condos being put up? New tech areas? Atlanta is always adding and building and tearing down the old and build up new this and that. What about Baltimore? Is it the same there? Or is it a big city small city thinking. Is Baltimore become a dead city or dying city?