Baltimore/Maryland are Mid-Atlantic (Bethesda, Frederick: crime, house, construction)

[krakenten]

Baltimore was essentially occupied by the Federals-if that's divided.

The War of 1812 gets a lot more attention-wonder why?

[rudy_d]

Perhaps because of Baltimore's prominent role in the war or the star spangled banner? I wouldn't say that the war of 1812 gets a lot of attention. Other than Martin O'Malley occasionally donning vintage military gear when he was mayor, I don't think it gets discussed much outside of Fort McHenry.

There weren't riots here during the Civil War because everyone agreed with one another.

[krakenten]

Baltimore has always been famed for riots-any excuse will do.

You should have been there for the 1974 Police Strike-I worked the street during that one, and it was serious business.

Or the "Winter Olympics'' when a blizzard brought on some determined looting.

Baltimore was known as 'Mobtown' for years, the City Paper revived it for their own pomo purposes, for a while, but civil unrest was quite common all through the 1800's.

For a long time there's been a slow motion riot in Baltimore-it's a part of everyday life.

Perhaps it's finally coming to an end.

[jonjj]

List of race riots - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Baltimore is not that different than most cities in relation to riots. I find it difficult to swallow Baltimore being singled out for every negative issue. Yes, it has issues but many of those are shared at a national level. Frankly, given the living situation of some of our neighborhoods, I am surprised there are not more disturbances.

[krakenten]

That list seems somewhat incomplete.

I've seen a work on the early Baltimore riots, and Wikipedia seems to omit the '74 police strike, and the Winter Riots.

There's a lot wrong with Baltimore-and a lot of it is the pervasive crime, the total lack of opportunity for the underclass(this called post-industrial-another name for post-prosperity).

Frankly, the drug culture has damped the rioting in America-addicts don't want their lives disrupted by the National Guard.

The threat of rioting used to be the best tool for getting their way for the disenfranchised-now, it's become hollow.

Truth be told, if you stay out of the dope biz, eschew sex with strangers and keep your eyes open when you travel about, you won't get murdered in Baltimore.

Frankly, you're safer in Baltimore today than you were in 1979.

However, the long tradition of disorder and rioting in Baltimore is a fact.

[hitek]

technically speaking maryland is part of the south in fact every place from D.c. delaware to texas is the south but being from New Haven Connecticut & moving to North Carolina & going back & forth having also been to a couple of places in Virginia & also maryland they all mostly seem the same to me: southern states with up north influence. Raleigh, Durham, Greensboro, Winston-Salem, & Charolette just has a northern feel like Richmond or Baltimore with so many people being from New York & Connecticut & people use New York slang such as money, B, & son. Eveytime I look around I see NY & CT license plates so NC is now a Mid Atlantic state to me. I've also been to Atlanta & some places & Tennessee & they are just plain southern & country & don't even look at North Carolina, Maryland, Virginia, or D.C. as part of the dirty south as they do Texas & Florida. Plus the hip hop scene in NC, VA, MD, DC has northern feel not the dirty south crunk & slow flow. So the question is irrelevant so DC, DE, MD, VA, NC should be connected as the way Georgia, Tennessee, Florida, Alabama, & the rest of the deep south r connected. Maryland was once the south but now its a mid atlantic state as with D.C. Virginia & NC

[jonjj]

I lived in Boston and now Baltimore. Baltimore has more southern influence but it is NOT North Carolina, Georgia, or Arkansas. It definitely fits in much more cohesively with the Mid-Atlantic states. Also, NC is not mid-Atlantic---It's the south!

[hitek]

Originally Posted by jonjj

I lived in Boston and now Baltimore. Baltimore has more southern influence but it is NOT North Carolina, Georgia, or Arkansas. It definitely fits in much more cohesively with the Mid-Atlantic states. Also, NC is not mid-Atlantic---It's the south!

Well its part of the so called upper south which consists of NC VA MD DC & DE & on some internet sites it classified as a Mid Atlantic state because its on the east coast guess it depends on definition. But as I said they mostly seem to be the same to me besides Baltimore what other big citie does Maryland have? NC has Charlotte, Raleigh, Durham, Winston Salem, Asheville, & Greensboro so you can't even compare it to the still racists & conservative deep south states Arkansas or Georgia. Also, South Maryland seems very southern to me.

[metalhead0043]

Originally Posted by carolott

Do people really care whether they live in the north, the south, the mid-atlantic...whatever?

Well coming from MD to NC I can tell you that a certain percentage of people here do. I know when I was in MD we never cared where anyone was from or ever worried about whether Maryland was considered part of the "north" or the "south".

I can say though that none of the locals here consider Maryland a southern state, and I agree with them. That said, I think that attitude is dying out though as more people from different areas (not just the northeastern states) move here and settle in.

[Miss Crabcakes]

Originally Posted by montanamom

Born and raised Marylander here. Both of my kids were born at Annapolis Hospital, near the Annapolis Harbor. Maryland is completely Northern in culture. There is absolutely nothing "Southern" about Maryland. Maybe it once was many years ago, but not over recent modern times. Anyone who says it is, has never been to the "real" south. Mid-atlantic is a perfect description. Baltimore is more laid back, Washington is more "yuppie". That's my take after being born there and lived there for 36 years, having a southern born mother, and living in the real south for more than a decade. Marylanders are "yankees" to southerners, all the way.

I completely agree. Thought we may technically be in the "South", I dont know any native Baltimorian that considers themselves a southener, including myself. It just doesn't seem to fit at all.