I'd like to talk about Racial Discrimination against Chinese Girls from Ghetto Black Girls( Not educated Black girls) (Baltimore: to live, restaurant)
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I really appreciate the replies from MDbound2 and df80umes, your comments saved me from real hatred and turned me into a loving person again. I cannot thank you enough for the influence you have on me from just a paragraph of words and your comments. And I really really appreciate Merc63 and Opalminor for sticking up for me and being my friend because I felt so alone. CaptainCatfish, I understand your anger, I would probably be miffed if someone talked about Chinese people poorly on this forum. But I was not trying to offend the Black race, or you , or your wife, I have some friends that are very high up, a Black judge/lawyer, I really like the Mayor Stephanie Rawlings Blake, and My idol have always been Martin Luther King Jr., And anyone who protested during the civil rights era, and who is still fighting for equal rights for all mankind. I have even turn my backs on some of my family members and friends because they did not like black people. Now, for me to have been discriminated again and again in Baltimore makes me just want to kill somebody, sometimes wonder if I should just be predjudiced since I don't see any black folks standing up for me, but that is not what I really want. I was trying to just explain the horrible experiences I had in Baltimore, Ohio is not a southern state and it is way different. Unfortunately, my bad experiences has always orginated from ghetto black girls, laughing at me really loud and continuously, and I have never done a thing to them, calling me chung, hun, jet li, mamasun (mamasun is actually a phrase in Japan that describes very old woman of very low class) so how do you think I feel, I am a middle aged woman being call that all the time. Black ghetto girls Blatantly laughing at me on the bus because I'm not wearing Dolce and Gabbana or the latest styles. And I have never been made fun of by Whites, Hispanics, Educated PH.D. Black Woman/Men, or any other races. Like I said, I have also had very bad experiences with 2 very low self esteemed Fillipinno woman, 1 young, one much older.
I am very glad this forum exist because in so many ways you all saved my life. If it wasn't for every single person who replied to this topic, I would have forever wondered what the hell is wrong with me, what exactly am I doing to make my self such a target? I have been wondering about that for 10 years. I have finally understand, it's not me, it;s Baltimore City. Try living in Baltimore City, then you will understand what I am talking about. It is crazy, there is very little value placed on human life,
some guy tried to rob me coming out of the 99cents store. Anyway, because of all of you that took the time to write to me, I have been able to feel normal again and not doubt myself as if I had bad spirits, evil spells placed upon me, should I changed my look?, etc, etc. I actually have lots of happiness back. Write to me if you want luannemichols@yahoo.com
But with all your support and input I have bounced back to my normal self. Thank you all! I can't thank you all enough! I feel like I can be friends with all of you except KennyP I think your comments to me are really scary.
And you have nothing to worry about from me...I took absolutely no offense at your original post...there's nothing wrong with you at all, as far as I can see---you strike me as an intelligent, positive person, who is simply stating her view on a negative experience, the kind I wish you hadn't had to have...
Keep your head up, your back straight, your eyes open, stay true to yourself, and you will go extremely far in this life
captaincatfish... with all due respect... obviously, we're not talking about you or your wife here (..........duh!), so no need to put the spotlight on yourself and get all huffy and offended. Did you even read the original post? Are you putting yourself in with this category? No...? Then don't worry about it- it has nothing to do with you. We're talking about the majority in Baltimore.... the ones who live up to their own worst stereotypes every day, 1000 times over and then some. The ones who are violent, rude, aggressive, horribly and unapologetically, blatantly prejudiced, racist and hateful against everyone but their own; self-absorbed, uncivilized, non-civic-minded, etc. etc. etc. etc. The truth hurts, and this is the truth of living in Baltimore. MD. I didn't make it up, I lived it. It sucks. And it's such a taboo subject,, no one wants to talk about it. The ghetto blacks refuse to take responsibility for their behavior, and the educated blacks get all offended and turn it around on the ones who speak up about it (just like you did.. as if we're talking about them/you). And nothing ever changes. What Luanne is describing is absolutely real-- and good for her for having the guts to bring it up.
People want equality? Well then, we will all talk to each other as equals, no....? Which doesn't always involve what those people want to hear..... or having their egos stroked.
Yes, I did read the original post, and I let Luanne know this morning that any 'fury' coming from me was not directed at her...
And I understand why you said some of the things you did in your reply to her, which was what triggered the post I made...and ya know what? Here's more---those folks you talk about are in abundance in my hometown (Cleveland Ohio) as well...I absolutely, without question, revile and rebuke their idiotic, thugged-out, 'gangsta'-wannabe behavior, and you're right again---Luanne by all means SHOULD have spoken her mind, and that subject is not discussed as it should be...and I saw earlier upthread that someone besides me made it known that all black folk don't fit (or want to be associated with!) that stereotype...
Also, I really don't give a rat's a** on toast if some black folk get offended when I call them out for acting like they're in a casting call for 'Boyz In The Hood-The Broadway Musical'...don't want to hear my mouth? Then stop populating jail cells and graveyards at an alarming rate...quit this bulldirkey about accusing folks of 'acting white' simply because they choose to act as though they have a BRAIN, GOOD DICTION, and HOME TRAINING---last time I looked, whites didn't have a corner on these things...
And most importantly...take responsibility for YOURSELF and YOUR ACTIONS, grow a pair and a spinal cord, and stop blaming whites, Asians, Muslims, Captain Crunch, Sponge Bob, Oscar The Grouch and anybody else within 20 miles for 'keeping you down'...the only one keeping you down is in your bathroom mirror (but nahhh, you don't wanna hear that---it's 'the man' that's keeping you down...yeahhh right)
Whewww...glad I got that off my chest...and with all due respect to you, I'm sorry if you took my tone as 'huffy and offended'---that wasn't my intent...I was stating my objection to what I thought was your painting all blacks with the same brush (which, in hindsight, you probably weren't)
I have been a Baltimore resident for most of my life. With that said...
I am a "middle-aged" (38) Caucasian female living in Baltimore City (Seton Hill). I have never had any problem relating to anyone in this town, black or white or Asian or multi-colored. And I've lived in some of the "dodgy" neighborhoods (a good portion of my years were spent up and down the Greenmount Avenue corridor - if that's not "dodgy", what is?).
Most of the people I know in Baltimore - no matter of the color of their skin - are hard-working folk trying to make a living and survive the best they can in an economy that simply isn't so good - for anybody.
I find that it's not really the young black women of Baltimore that frighten me so much as it is ALL "younger" people - regardless of race or color. There seems to be an incredible lack of respect or caring toward senior citizens or basically other people in general. I've seen Baltimore public school students shove elderly women out of seats on the buses - it's a good thing I'm not their mother because I'd have slapped the daylights out of them. It's sure not how I was taught to act when I was young.
I think that blame belongs on BOTH sides. If we'd all learn to keep to ourselves and to be civil toward each other no matter our differences I think there'd be a hell of a lot less problems in the world, but what do I know. Generalizations about a person's race or color or whatever does no one any good - certainly not the city of Baltimore, nor the people who live here.
Oh give this overly sensitive leftist PC crap a rest will you? My response was clearly in the context of responding to the OP's concern that many blacks in Baltimore are rude and uneducated. If it were about whites and asians I would have said the same thing. Chill out.
You're confusing black with uneducated. Be careful w/ that faulty assumption in Baltimore, b/c it can get you into trouble. There are larges swaths of uneducated people in this city that react with great disdain to anyone they think is acting 'better' than them.
Behavior that you were taught and praised for as a child will be looked at as snobby here.
The above statement couldn't be more accurate. Do not make the mistake of thinking that "all black kids in Baltimore are uneducated". The correct statement is that most kids in Baltimore - black, white, Asian, whatever - are woefully UNDEReducated.
The Baltimore City public school system is extremely bad - it was while I was growing up, and it remains so today, despite all of their attempts at improvement.
I would have forever wondered what the hell is wrong with me, what exactly am I doing to make my self such a target? I have been wondering about that for 10 years. I have finally understand, it's not me, it;s Baltimore City. Try living in Baltimore City, then you will understand what I am talking about. It is crazy, there is very little value placed on human life,
OP, I have lived in Baltimore City all of my life. And continue to live here. And while I'm sorry that you haven't had a good experience here, I'm honestly wondering what you did to provoke such reactions from the people that you're describing. I am not saying that you're responsible for being taunted, okay, so don't think that - but in my experience, people leave you alone if you leave them alone. If I run into a person who's talking loud or acting out or whatever, I simply ignore them, or leave the situation - because I don't care for such peoples' company.
Could it be that you may have been staring at the girls without realizing you were staring? That can happen, I've been guilty of it myself. It's a normal human error, but some people are uber-sensitive for whatever reasons they might have - a chip on their shoulder, or whatever. Maybe this is what happened?
I find it very hard to believe that a group of girls just came into a place and started ragging on you for no good reason other than they could. It doesn't happen that way here. Most of the time people ignore you unless they're provoked.
And most importantly...take responsibility for YOURSELF and YOUR ACTIONS, grow a pair and a spinal cord, and stop blaming whites, Asians, Muslims, Captain Crunch, Sponge Bob, Oscar The Grouch and anybody else within 20 miles for 'keeping you down'...the only one keeping you down is in your bathroom mirror (but nahhh, you don't wanna hear that---it's 'the man' that's keeping you down...yeahhh right)
This statement above could and should apply to EVERYONE, no matter what the race or color. That's the bottom line - we all need to stop blaming everyone else in the world for our own actions and take responsibility for ourselves - period.
Thank you for stating this so eloquently. My hat is off to you, sir.
So the next day on my jogging route, I see the same group of boys and confronted one of them and told him if he has something to say, he should say it to my face and basically got into his face.
How rational and mature of you.
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Originally Posted by ToneGrail
Oh give this overly sensitive leftist PC crap a rest will you? My response was clearly in the context of responding to the OP's concern that many blacks in Baltimore are rude and uneducated. If it were about whites and asians I would have said the same thing. Chill out.
The above statement couldn't be more accurate. Do not make the mistake of thinking that "all black kids in Baltimore are uneducated". The correct statement is that most kids in Baltimore - black, white, Asian, whatever - are woefully UNDEReducated.
The Baltimore City public school system is extremely bad - it was while I was growing up, and it remains so today, despite all of their attempts at improvement.
I don't believe ANYONE, ANYWHERE think "all black kids...(fill in the blank)", although many like to claim victimization of such thought. I agree with your statements about the color blind nature of Baltimore's terrible school performance, but bear in mind, the correct statement is ALSO that most kids in Baltimore ARE black.
And what would you have done? These kids needed to know that what they did was wrong. Letting them get away with it would have only reinforced the idea that shouting out racist epithets has no consequences. I should add that I got in his face in a stern, but non threatening manner like any parent or teacher would have done had he heard such garbage coming out of a child's mouth. You weren't there so I suggest you stop making assumptions.
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Luanne...Thank You For What You Said
