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Old 09-16-2011, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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At least this didn't happen
At least Sandoval didn't hit into a small red x?
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Old 09-16-2011, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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At least Sandoval didn't hit into a small red x?
Image works for me

This this link

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Old 09-16-2011, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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The Giants have the largest ownership group in MLB. It follows that whichever of the owners is made the chief operational officer, is not going to be able to exercise power as freely as someone who owned a majority, or at least a large percentage of the team. There is going to be a long accountability chain, the operating executive, the executive board and the other vested partners.

Neukom's sin appears to have been spending money without consulting that accountability chain, and in the process, bumping expenditures past the limits imposed by the ownership collective.

So it may not be a matter of the firing being reflective of a fundamental change in the Giants philosophy, but more a matter of the public having a misconception of what that philosophy was. Neukom's enthusiasm for spending appears to have been the anomaly which created that misconception.
Yeah, I've read and heard the speculation as to the reason for Neukom's departure, but I think there's much more going on here behind the scenes than a simple lack of communication when it comes to spending. The fact Neukom is now going to divest suggests his departure is not simple or amicable.

Neukom is the second managing general partner to be forced out in a little over 3 years. The news conference yesterday was full of lawyer speak and did little to shed any light on what can safely be referred to as dysfunction at the top. Stable ownership groups don't dump a man some 10 months after winning the team's first ever championship under his tenure.

This couldn't have been done without the instigation or at the very least the agreement of the Burns daughters...whose main claim to fame is nothing more than an accident of birth. I realize the circumstances and the setup are different, but Trina Burns Dean and her husband Rob, are an uncomfortable reminder of Denise DeBartolo York and her own I married right, fingers in the pie, husband John.

The Giants are worse off for the loss of Bill Neukom. He had a stated vision and believed in putting the windfall from the WS back into the system. Who can argue with such a plan unless they're much more interested in pocketing profits than in keeping the Giants at the pinnacle of baseball..

Time will tell, but this does not bode well for the prospects of keeping such stars as Cain or Lincecum. Giants fans are unsettled and concerned over this sudden change..and they have a right to be..
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Old 09-16-2011, 02:23 PM
 
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That was triple was funny on Sandoval. Its like all this was designed to happen lol. He only had 1 triple the entire year.
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Old 09-16-2011, 02:24 PM
 
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Giants are 7 back of AZ but have 3 against AZ and only 6 back of ATL!

BELIEVE!
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:44 PM
 
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Giants are the hottest team in baseball right now.

Giants have pulled within 5 of ATL And 6.5 of AZ

BELIEVE!
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:24 PM
 
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7 game winning streak! WOW!

Pill is the real deal for this franchise's future.

Beltran continues to be hot.

With all the injuries this year, I am so proud of this team.

5 back with AZ.

If Giants go into AZ with 3 back, then we control own destiny to win the West!
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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And Cabrera almost dropped another popup. I'm not at all sure why he's still playing.

It's times like these that you look back at what could have been. For instance, Wilson, with an assist from Cabrera playing a ground ball into an infield hit, blowing a two run lead and the save against the Braves about a month ago. That's a two game swing in the Wild Card race..

Then there's OCab's dropped soft line drive a couple weeks ago against the Astros with 1 out in the 8th inning, Cain and the Giants nursing a 1 run lead. He makes what was a routine play Crawford could have made with his eyes closed, there's two out and nobody on and the Giants most likely go on to win. Instead, Houston scores and eventually wins the game in extra innings.

If the Giants don't blow those two games, they're presently only 2 back in the WC and 3 behind the D-Backs. And even with the current win streak, they're still only 21-26 since acquiring Beltran....and who knows what the long term repercussions will be from losing Wheeler.. I only bring these things up to highlight how Sabean's deadline deals this year have actually hurt the Giants more than helped.

Sometimes the best trades are the ones you never make..
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:58 AM
 
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No Freddy, Jonathan and no Posey either. Wilson is out too.

How do you like Brett Pill?

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And Cabrera almost dropped another popup. I'm not at all sure why he's still playing.

It's times like these that you look back at what could have been. For instance, Wilson, with an assist from Cabrera playing a ground ball into an infield hit, blowing a two run lead and the save against the Braves about a month ago. That's a two game swing in the Wild Card race..

Then there's OCab's dropped soft line drive a couple weeks ago against the Astros with 1 out in the 8th inning, Cain and the Giants nursing a 1 run lead. He makes what was a routine play Crawford could have made with his eyes closed, there's two out and nobody on and the Giants most likely go on to win. Instead, Houston scores and eventually wins the game in extra innings.

If the Giants don't blow those two games, they're presently only 2 back in the WC and 3 behind the D-Backs. And even with the current win streak, they're still only 21-26 since acquiring Beltran....and who knows what the long term repercussions will be from losing Wheeler.. I only bring these things up to highlight how Sabean's deadline deals this year have actually hurt the Giants more than helped.

Sometimes the best trades are the ones you never make..
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Old 09-20-2011, 12:31 AM
 
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Giants have pulled within 3.5 games of Braves and have one more extra game then Braves.

If Giants go into AZ 3 back then Giants control their own destiny to win the NL West!


ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

WE JUST CAMEBACK FROM NOWHERE!
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