The Red Sox opened the vault and signed Carl Crawford (wild card, games) - - City-Data Forum

Lancet71 · 12-09-2010, 04:43 AM

7 years $142 million. LMFAO

Crawford, for over 20 a year? Now i've seen it all!!!

lititzman2003 · 12-09-2010, 06:53 AM

Seems unusual for the Red Sox to do this.

Lancet71 · 12-09-2010, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lititzman2003

Seems unusual for the Red Sox to do this.

Don't get me wrong. Crawford is a very solid player but he is not one of the elite players. I definitely would not put him in a Pujols category so I do think they overpayed a little. I do give them credit though for doing what it took to sign him considering everyone was hearing that the Angels were going to pull out all the stops for him.

lititzman2003 · 12-09-2010, 09:23 AM

I just thought Boston was more conservative when it came to free agent signings. I also thought that they would get Werth but I was wrong.

Bondurant · 12-09-2010, 10:37 AM

The new Evil Empire in baseball.

Statz2k10 · 12-09-2010, 02:55 PM

I think 4 years at 80 million would have been better. A guy like that who relies on speed as being a huge part of his success might be a huge money problem in 5-6 years when he's not running as fast.

Grandstander · 12-09-2010, 05:06 PM

I'm not surprised that it was the Red Sox who were courting Crawford. They are an intelligent, progressive organization and recognized that among the crop of stars on the market, Crawford represented the best bargain because of his age, he will be 29 next season and does not come with the same degree of decline probability which marks players who are approaching their mid thirties. If anyone was a good gamble for a long term deal, it was Crawford.

However, I was surprised by the size and length of the contract. Crawford is a very valuable player, but a 20 million dollars a year player? I had foolishly added Crawford to my wish list for the Giants, thinking that he might be within their price range, but obviously that was a miscalulation. I had been thinking he might be had for four years at 13 or 14 million a season.

Still, even if he is being overcompensated by Boston, he should help boost the team's fortunes for the next several years.

aardvarks · 12-09-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Statz2k10

I think 4 years at 80 million would have been better. A guy like that who relies on speed as being a huge part of his success might be a huge money problem in 5-6 years when he's not running as fast.

Wow

Johnny Damon with more speed=142 Mil?

yup, he'll probably earn his contract the 1st two or three seasons, but by the end I think Theo will regret this one.

I have to say I'm surprised by this deal, once they traded for AGon, I figured Theo would look for a cheap right handed OF bat like Mags.

Looking at the 2011 Sox now, there's a lot of lefty bats

RF?-Crawford (L)(putting him in LF eliminates his speed advantage for 81 games)
2b-Pedroia
1b-Gonzalez (L)
3b-Youkilis
DH-Ortiz (L)
LF-Drew (L)-Cameron
SS-Scutaro
C- Salty
CF-Ellsbury (L)

Lancet71 · 12-09-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by aardvarks

Wow

Johnny Damon with more speed=142 Mil?

yup, he'll probably earn his contract the 1st two or three seasons, but by the end I think Theo will regret this one.

I have to say I'm surprised by this deal, once they traded for AGon, I figured Theo would look for a cheap right handed OF bat like Mags.

Looking at the 2011 Sox now, there's a lot of lefty bats

RF?-Crawford (L)(putting him in LF eliminates his speed advantage for 81 games)
2b-Pedroia
1b-Gonzalez (L)
3b-Youkilis
DH-Ortiz (L)
LF-Drew (L)-Cameron
SS-Scutaro
C- Salty
CF-Ellsbury (L)

Crawford is a better power hitting Ellsbury and have you noticed one major thing about this lineup...alot of injury prone guys. I figured Crawford for about 18 per year for about 4-5 years. Can't blame Crawford for taking the deal though because Boston always stands a chance whether for the division or the wild card. If Boston were smart they would be working out a deal for Garza or Greinke while everyone else is concentrating on Cliff Lee.

filihok · 12-09-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lancet71

have you noticed one major thing about this lineup...alot of injury prone guys.

???

Pedroia - on the DL once in his career. Over 150 games the last 2 seasons
Gonzalez - has never been on the DL. Has played more than 155 games the last 5 seasons. And 162 games twice
Youkilis - 3 times on the DL in 7 seasons.
Ortiz - 3 times on the DL in his career. Once with the Red Sox. 6 of 8 seasons in Boston he's played more an 145 games
Drew - Yeah. He misses some time
Scutaro - Has never been on the DL
Salty - I doubt he'll be the everyday catcher. Think Russ Martin
Ellsbury - was all over the DL this season, but has been healthy previously