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Old 01-22-2012, 06:41 PM
 
Location: texas
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Wow. I forgot all about this thread.

Did you forget about the Rangers?
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Baseball America released their top 10 prospects for the Texas Rangers


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1. Yu Darvish, rhp
2. Jurickson Profar, ss
3. Martin Perez, lhp
4. Mike Olt, 3b
5. Leonys Martin, of
6. Neil Ramirez, rhp
7. Cody Buckel, rhp
8. Jorge Alfaro, c
9. Christian Villanueva, 3b
10. Rougned Odor, 2b
Obviously, Yu Darvish is the #1.

SS Jackson Profar hit very well in A-Ball last year. He walked in 13% of his plate appearances while striking out in only 12%. He showed a little bit of pop with a ISO of over .200. He didn't hit many balls in the air (<30% fly balls) which will limit his power in the major leagues.

P Martin Perez's numbers weren't that spectacular; 16% strikeouts and 8% walks in 49 AAA innings. Then you remember that he was just in his age 20 season and was playing against players 4-5 years older than him. He still managed to be 18% better than the average pitcher for that league. He has swing and miss stuff and gets his share of ground balls (about 50% at each minor league stop)

3B Mike Olt terrorized hitters in 127 rookie ball PA's last year. He hit 73% better than the average hitter in that league and had a .743 Slugging Percentage. For a stupid comparison, Babe Ruth had a .770 Slugging Percentage in 1927 when he hit 60 home runs. Olt's performance in rookie ball got him advanced to High-A where he continued to mash. He 'only' managed to hit 50% better than an average hitter there with a Slugging Percentage of just over .500. He does K a little (24% of the time in High-A) but that's to be expected of a power hitter and he supplements in offense with a good eye (16% walks).

OF Leonys Martin shot through the Rangers' system last year. He began in rookie ball and ended the season with the big club. Martin got his most PA's in AA and AAA. In AA he assaulted opposing pitchers at a rate 58% better than the average hitter. He walked almost twice as often as he struck out (11% to 6%) while about half of his hits went for extra bases. AAA cooled his jets as he was a worse than average hitter. His K and BB rates swapped and his power disappeared. He hit pretty similarly across both levels however. About a 19% line drive rate, 45% ground ball rate and 23% fly ball rate. So, likely, he's not as good as he looked in AA and not as bad as he looked in AAA. He's not ready yet, but it'll be interesting to see how soon he takes over as the Rangers' CFer
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Old 01-24-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Little Elm, TX
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I guess we're going to give Josh a boatload of money...
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Old 01-24-2012, 09:41 PM
 
Location: texas
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I guess we're going to give Josh a boatload of money...


Yep....Prince is headng to Tiger land
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Old 01-30-2012, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Rangers extend Ron Washington through 2014.

I'm not a Washington fan but no chance the Rangers were gonna mess with what's worked thus far
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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A lot of Oswalt to Texas rumors.

Not sure that that makes sense.

Texas probably has the 2nd best rotation in the majors behind Philly.

Yu Darvish and Derek Holland both have the potential to be true aces.
Colby Lewis and Matt Harrison are certainly solid. And certainly better than most of the #3 and #4 starters of most teams.
Neftali Feliz has the best stuff of anyone on the team and could end up as the best pitcher of the bunch.
That's 5
Then there' Alexi Ogando who should be a starter but will be moved to the 'pen to accommodate Feliz.

I don't see how Oswalt fits in.

I imagine that he'd bump Harrison, but he's not much of an upgrade. Using 3 projection systems available on FanGraphs we get:
Oswalt 11 - 9 3.61 ERA 28 starts 168 innings, 7 K/9, 2.2 BB/9, 3.50 FIP
Harrison 9 - 8 4.09 ERA 31 starts 155 innings, 6 K/9, 3.0 BB/9, 4.05 FIP

Those numbers would have Oswalt producing right around 1 WAR more than Harrison.
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Old 01-30-2012, 10:03 PM
 
Location: texas
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A lot of Oswalt to Texas rumors.

Not sure that that makes sense.

Texas probably has the 2nd best rotation in the majors behind Philly.

Yu Darvish and Derek Holland both have the potential to be true aces.
Colby Lewis and Matt Harrison are certainly solid. And certainly better than most of the #3 and #4 starters of most teams.
Neftali Feliz has the best stuff of anyone on the team and could end up as the best pitcher of the bunch.
That's 5
Then there' Alexi Ogando who should be a starter but will be moved to the 'pen to accommodate Feliz.

I don't see how Oswalt fits in.

I imagine that he'd bump Harrison, but he's not much of an upgrade. Using 3 projection systems available on FanGraphs we get:
Oswalt 11 - 9 3.61 ERA 28 starts 168 innings, 7 K/9, 2.2 BB/9, 3.50 FIP
Harrison 9 - 8 4.09 ERA 31 starts 155 innings, 6 K/9, 3.0 BB/9, 4.05 FIP

Those numbers would have Oswalt producing right around 1 WAR more than Harrison.

You can never have too many good pitchers IMO I'm loving this conversation compared to conversations in the past, about how our pitching sucked
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Old 01-30-2012, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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You can never have too many good pitchers IMO I'm loving this conversation compared to conversations in the past, about how our pitching sucked
You can certainly have an inefficient distribution of resources
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Old 01-31-2012, 12:01 AM
 
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You can certainly have an inefficient distribution of resources

Ahhh.....Just enjoy the ride.....I am, as are many many Ranger fans We'll be fine, Wash and Daniels are doing an outstanding job
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Wash and Daniels are doing an outstanding job
Daniels, yes
Washington, not so much
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