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Kemp wins two of the three triple crown races, home runs and RBI, that is a pretty good ad for him as MVP. He would get my vote, but I do not know that he will win because of the "must be on a winner" philosophy of many voters. During the Giants final day loss to Colorado this afternoon, the announcers devoted some time to discussing the NL MVP votes and their final verdict was for Braun on the grounds of "He did it in the heat of the pennant race."
I think it would be awesome to see a pitcher win CY/MVP again.
Verlander might do it over in the AL.
Pitchers already have Cy Young. I am completely against pitchers winning MVP, no matter how well they pitched. They're only pitching once every 4-5 days.
Pitchers already have Cy Young. I am completely against pitchers winning MVP, no matter how well they pitched. They're only pitching once every 4-5 days.
A couple of points argue against you
1) Hitters already have their own award. The Hank Aaron Award. But they are eligible to win the MVP
2) Rookies already have their own award. The Rookie of the Year. But they are eligible to win the MVP
3) Batter only hit once out of every nine plate appearances.
Chris Carpenter faced 996 batters this season. Sabathia 985. Shields 975. ...
Jacoby Ellsbury lead the majors with 732 plate appearances.
Despite playing every 5 days, pitchers are involved in more plate appearances than batters are.
Pitchers already have Cy Young. I am completely against pitchers winning MVP, no matter how well they pitched. They're only pitching once every 4-5 days.
Justin Verlander pitched 251 innings this season. That is 753 batters/baserunners retired. He gave up 174 hits and 57 walks, another 231 batters faced. His total batters faced for the year was 969.
Got any position players who came to the plate 969 times?
Is it not the case that the biggest blow to the Tiger's fortunes this year would have been an opening day injury to Verlander which kept him out all year?
If they wanted to change the rules and have it so that only position players were elligible for the MVP, then I would not argue against that. However, they have not changed it and since it is "most valuable", then we should certainly consider everyone's value, not just position players.
Verlander has an excellent case going for him. Among all AL players, only Bautista topped Verlander in WAR, and just barely, 8.6 to 8.5. If you deny Bautista's worth on the grounds of his team not being in the race, then Verlander emerges as the most logical candidate.
1) Hitters already have their own award. The Hank Aaron Award. But they are eligible to win the MVP
Hitters play every day, pitchers don't.
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2) Rookies already have their own award. The Rookie of the Year. But they are eligible to win the MVP
Hitters play every day, pitchers don't.
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3) Batter only hit once out of every nine plate appearances.
And they play every day. Pitchers outside of the 1 game they pitch, do not play. They're only having an effect on 1 game a week, maybe 2 tops if they're needed.
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Chris Carpenter faced 996 batters this season. Sabathia 985. Shields 975. ...
Jacoby Ellsbury lead the majors with 732 plate appearances.
Carpenter- 34 games
Sabathia- 33 games
Shields- 33 games
Ellsbury- 158 games
Add in Ellbury's number of outs recorded to his plate appearances and it equals 1120. Clearly more than 996, 985, and 975.
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