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Unread 10-19-2011, 03:44 PM
 
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Default Can we please include The Cardinals in the elite baseball franchises club?

From now on, the Cardinals are in the same category as the Yankees, Red Sox and Phillies.

This is an elite franchise, with lots and lots of tradition, great hall of famers, in a city that bleeds baseball, who currently has the best player in baseball and the best manager, whether you hate him or love him. This is the team who is second in world series championships, second only to the mighty Yankees, and the team with the most NL pennants.

So let's heart it for the Cardinals!
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Unread 10-19-2011, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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From now on, the Cardinals are in the same category as the Yankees, Red Sox and Phillies.

This is an elite franchise, with lots and lots of tradition, great hall of famers, in a city that bleeds baseball, who currently has the best player in baseball and the best manager, whether you hate him or love him. This is the team who is second in world series championships, second only to the mighty Yankees, and the team with the most NL pennants.

So let's heart it for the Cardinals!
East Coast bias reigns. Have you seen Ken Burns' Baseball series? The time spent covering the Cardinals vs the time spent on the Red Sox is insane.
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Unread 10-19-2011, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Midtown Omaha
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Arguably the 2nd most storied franchise in baseball history.
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Unread 10-19-2011, 10:13 PM
 
Location: MO Ozarkian in NE Hoosierana
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Thanks for the love, but (at least for many of us in the Midwest) the Cards are already in the Elite category... second only to the despised Yankees in WS wins, with a history, as you mention, that is beyond rich with some awesome stories, people, and moments. But unfortunately, as noted above, the coasts get the attention, with the teams in "flyover country" passing notice - will be interesting to see, for example, how the tv-viewing ratings are on the coasts for these games...
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Unread 10-19-2011, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Knoxville
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I think anyone who follows baseball even a little bit knows this to be true. But, being in flyover country () means they're never going to get the same amount of coverage or love.

Albert Pujols is pretty much an idol in St. Louis. However, can you imagine what his stature would be if he had been in New York or Boston his whole career? Wow.
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Unread 10-19-2011, 10:20 PM
 
Location: The City
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Am personally having trouble, but there is likely a cause
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Unread 10-19-2011, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Knoxville
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Also, if we're being perfectly honest, the Phillies are gonna have to keep winning to get into the "elite" club.
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Unread 10-19-2011, 10:42 PM
 
Location: The City
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Also, if we're being perfectly honest, the Phillies are gonna have to keep winning to get into the "elite" club.

Agree - right now they are more like the Braves - very upsetting personally
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Unread 10-20-2011, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Ohio; originally Oakland, CA
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Historically "elite" franchises include the Yankees, Red Sox, Giants, Athletics, Dodgers, and Cardinals. You might throw the Tigers in there too. The rest, not so much.
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Unread 10-20-2011, 03:42 AM
 
Location: Athens, GA (via Pittsburgh, PA)
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Historically "elite" franchises include the Yankees, Red Sox, Giants, Athletics, Dodgers, and Cardinals. You might throw the Tigers in there too. The rest, not so much.
World Series championships by team
27 - New York Yankees
10 - St. Louis Cardinals
9 - Philadelphia/Oakland Athletics
7 - Boston Americans/Red Sox
6 - Brooklyn/Los Angeles Dodgers
6 - New York/San Francisco Giants
5 - Cincinnati Reds
5 - Pittsburgh Pirates
4 - Detroit Tigers
3 - Baltimore Orioles
3 - Boston/Milwaukee/Atlanta Braves
3 - Chicago White Sox
3 - Washington Senators/Minnesota Twins
2 - Chicago Cubs
2 - Cleveland Indians
2 - Florida Marlins
2 - New York Mets
2 - Philadelphia Phillies
2 - Toronto Blue Jays
1 - Anaheim Angels
1 - Arizona Diamondbacks
1 - Kansas City Royals

World Series championships by city
35 - New York
10 - St. Louis
8 - Boston
7 - Philadelphia
5 - Chicago
5 - Cincinnati
5 - Los Angeles
5 - Pittsburgh
4 - Detroit
4 - Oakland
3 - Baltimore
2 - Cleveland
2 - Florida
2 - Minnesota
2 - Toronto
1 - Anaheim
1 - Arizona
1 - Atlanta
1 - Kansas City
1 - Milwaukee
1 - San Francisco
1 - Washington

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