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11-14-2011, 12:10 PM
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2011 Off Season Awards
http://bbwaa.com/2011/11/2011-rookies/
AL ROY
Hellickson - TB 102
Trumbo - LAA 63
Hosmer - KC 38
Nova - NYY 30
Pineda - SEA 11
Ackely - SEA 6
Jennins - TB 1
Walden - LAA 1
NL ROY
Kimbrel - ATL 160 (unanimous)
Freeman - ATL 70
Worley - PHI 40
Ramos - WAS 6
Collment - AZ 5
Espinoza WAS 3
Barney CHI 2
Jansen LAD 2
My vote was NL Kimbrel, Ramos, Worley and AL Pineda, Alburquerque, Lawrie
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11-14-2011, 02:29 PM
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THE BOOK--Playing The Percentages In Baseball
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Top 3 rookie pitchers, according to BBWAA:
#1: Jeremy Hellickson (2.95 ERA, well-ahead of the other two)
#2: Ivan Nova (16-4, well-ahead of the other two)
#3: Michael Pineda (76 OPS+, 3.42 FIP, well-ahead of the other two)
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It appears that the voters preferred ERA and WINS to more advanced metrics.
Relatedly, this looks good for a 2011 CY Young for Clayton Kershaw who lead the NL in ERA and wins, but finished behind Halladay in FIP.
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11-15-2011, 12:02 PM
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It will be announced soon that Justin Verlander is the American League Cy Young and CC Sabathia is 2nd.
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11-15-2011, 12:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
It will be announced soon that Justin Verlander is the American League Cy Young and CC Sabathia is 2nd.
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BBWAA.com: Official site of the Baseball Writers' Assn. of America.
American League Cy Young
Verlander - DET 196 (unanimous)
Weaver - LAA 97
Shields - TB 66
Sabathia - NYY 63
Valverde - DET 28
CJ Wilson - TEX 9
Haren - LAA 7
Rivera - NYY 4
Beckett - BOS 3
Romero - TOR 2
Robertson - NYY 1
My vote was: Verlander, Sabathia, Haren, Hernandez, Weaver
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11-15-2011, 01:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
THE BOOK--Playing The Percentages In Baseball
It appears that the voters preferred ERA and WINS to more advanced metrics.
Relatedly, this looks good for a 2011 CY Young for Clayton Kershaw who lead the NL in ERA and wins, but finished behind Halladay in FIP.
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I believe that Kershaw will be awarded the honor. He won the pitching triple crown...wins, ERA and strikeouts. He also edges Halladay in WAR, 7.6 to 7.3..according to Baseball Reference.
And finally there is the Oscar mentality of the voters, as in reasoning that there is so little to distinguish Halladay as better than Kershaw, and Halladay has already been honored while Kershaw has not....ergo, it is Kershaw's "turn."
All of that should easily trump FIP metrics in the minds of the voters.
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11-15-2011, 07:25 PM
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I looked at it every way I could and I couldn't find a way to pick Kershaw over Halladay. Certainly they are 1A and 1B with Lee #3.
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11-15-2011, 08:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by filihok
I looked at it every way I could and I couldn't find a way to pick Kershaw over Halladay. Certainly they are 1A and 1B with Lee #3.
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I suspect that the voters will overcome that difficulty.
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11-17-2011, 12:09 AM
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11-17-2011, 12:01 PM
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And the winner (of the 2011 NL Cy Young) is...
Clayton Kershaw
Kershaw - LAD 207
Halladay - PHI 133
Lee - PHI 90
Kennedy - AZ 76
Hamels - PHI 17
Lincecum - SF 7
Gallardo - MIL 5
Cain - SF 3
Axford - MIL 2
Kimbrel - ATL 2
Vogelsong - SF 1
My Vote: Halladay, Kershaw, Lee, Hamels, Kennedy
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11-17-2011, 02:54 PM
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