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Old 02-28-2012, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I was reading an article recently and the author had stated that it's completely asinine to brand Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, etc. as cheaters since it can be safely stated that most of the league was doing some sort of PED, so the playing field was level.
I could be wrong about this, but the "everyone else was doing it too" defense doesn't hold up in court.
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Old 02-28-2012, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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I was reading an article recently and the author had stated that it's completely asinine to brand Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, etc. as cheaters since it can be safely stated that most of the league was doing some sort of PED, so the playing field was level. .
We do not know the percentage of players who used PEDs. Unless it was 100%, then of course the playing field was not level, it was a situation where some had a chemical advantage and others did not.

And why is it asinine to brand cheaters as cheaters, regardless of the number of participants?
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Old 02-28-2012, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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Are you seriously suggesting that taking a drug can turn a person into a Braun?....or a Bonds?
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:20 AM
 
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Are you seriously suggesting that taking a drug can turn a person into a Braun?....or a Bonds?
Taking a drug must do something. There was Sammy Sosa, belting his 19 or 20 home runs every year. And all of a sudden...
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Richardson, TX
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Barry's head got a lot bigger.
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Old 02-29-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/24/sp...linger.html?hp

Barry Bonds never tested positive for steroid use. One Better. Those are the facts and are not in dispute.

Still he was Persecuted and hounded. What is the difference?

Clear as the sun on a blue sky day.
Why aren't you bumping your old threads on the topic?
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Old 02-29-2012, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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Why aren't you bumping your old threads on the topic?
No Need. You apparently remember them.
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Old 02-29-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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No Need. You apparently remember them.
Yep, I remember a whole bunch of us debunking some of your comments and then your admitting to personally knowing the guy and so on and so forth.

Starting a new thread is a good way to avoid your earlier predictions and comments.
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Old 03-01-2012, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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I don't have an issue debating the issue on it's merits. Braun's experience here and that of Bonds treatment is obviously different. Why is one of the questions. If you want to bring up old stuff be my guest. I am suggesting that the testing that MLB does is politically and racially motivated and charged. Would you like to disprove that? So far it looks like a "no".

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Old 03-01-2012, 02:08 PM
 
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I don't have an issue debating the issue on it's merits. Braun's experience here and that of Bonds treatment is obviously different. Why is one of the questions. If you want to bring up old stuff be my guest. I am suggesting that the testing that MLB does is politically and racially motivated and charged. Would you like to disprove that? So far it looks like a "no".

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Aw, yeah they were out to get Barry because of racism.......LMFAO. AFter kissin' his butt for years with tons of awards they suddenly realized he was black and came after him.

A seriously racist attitude you have.

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