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Old 02-24-2012, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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Barry Bonds never tested positive for steroid use. One Better. Those are the facts and are not in dispute.

Still he was Persecuted and hounded. What is the difference?

Clear as the sun on a blue sky day.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Ryan Braun has been found innocent by a technicality, not that the test result itself was necessarily in error.

Though his suspension was cancelled, in still is unknown how he will be considered by the media and by fans.

As far as being clean, he may be in the "doubt it class", just like Bonds (and Roger Clemens). At this point it is too early to tell.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:11 AM
 
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Bonds is an admitted steroid user - positive test or not.

The only thing he can argue is that he didn't realize that they were steroids and the duration of his use.

There is zero doubt or disagreement that he did use a substance that has been shown to be a PED and he has admitted using the substance.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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Braun wasn't found innocent at all. The result of the investigation was nullification of the case due to improper evidenciary procedures.
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:36 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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The difference is that Bonds didn't play for Bud Selig's team.
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Old 02-24-2012, 08:09 PM
 
Location: :~)
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Whats the difference one is white or white looking and the other is black. The biggest difference is that Bonds is a complete a--. He burns bridges where ever he goes, that's why prosecutors want him. He should stop being a jerk then watch how nice people become.
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Old 02-26-2012, 06:07 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Since Ryan Brauns has been Found Innocent, Shouldn't Bonds be Given the Benefit of the Doubt Too.

Barry Bonds never tested positive for steroid use. One Better. Those are the facts and are not in dispute.

Still he was Persecuted and hounded. What is the difference?

Clear as the sun on a blue sky day.
first we need to wipe the slate clean on Bruno Hauptmanns and come to think of it, what proof did they really have on that whole Cains vs. Abels thing either?
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Old 02-26-2012, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Whidbey Island, WA
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Your point is amusing and probably a good one. Having seen Barry play and hang out there is no doubt in my mind he (and Braun) are gentlemen. At least give them a doping policy which secured the chain of testing and evidence so that the sample does not end up next to the old mayo in the fridge or in the hands of unscrupulous law enforcement officials. These guys can hit catch and run. Let's support fair and accurate testing.

Go Barry
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Old 02-27-2012, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Go Barry
The way you've been backing Bonds over several threads is actually kind of creepy.
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Old 02-27-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Las Cruces, NM
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I was reading an article recently and the author had stated that it's completely asinine to brand Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, etc. as cheaters since it can be safely stated that most of the league was doing some sort of PED, so the playing field was level. I can respect Bonds for just keeping his mouth shut, plus, as someone else stated, he never tested positive for anything. Now, for McGwire and Palmeiro who couldn't keep their mouths shut, I shake my head at them. Arod will be seen as a hero after he's done playing because he just came out and admitted it, as with Pettite.

Ryan Braun should also keep his mouth shut because he was sitting under a lucky star. It also didn't hurt that as Mr Yuk kindly reminded us, he plays for the commissioner's team.
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