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Old 06-18-2012, 06:07 PM
 
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Matt Cain starts tonight against the Angels in Anaheim with a chance to top Johnny Vander Meer's back to back no hitters in 1938. Cain could have back to back perfect games, but even if it is just a no hitter, a consecutive perfectgame/no hitter would seem more impressive than consecutive no hitter/no hitter. Of course the odds are rather long against our having to concern ourselves with such rankings.

Vander Meer's second no hitter was sloppy affair, marred by eight walks, including walking the bases loaded in the ninth before getting the final out. The game reports say that there were a number of spectacular defensive plays made to keep the no hitter intact. It was also the first night game played in the history of Ebbet's Field

Last year Justin Verlander followed his no hitter with five no hit innings in his next outing before the balloon burst. The pitcher who has come the closest to matching Vander Meer's feat was Ewell Blackwell of the 1947 Reds, who had a no-hitter broken up with one out in the ninth against Brooklyn on June 22 of that year, four days after no-hitting the Boston Braves 6-0.
Ewell Blackwell took his second straight no-hitter into the ninth before it was broken up. Vander Meer was a teammate, sitting on the bench watching. Blackwell's two no hitters wold have been against the same two teams as Vander Meer's -- the Braves and Dodgers. Eddie Stanky broke it up with one out in the ninth.
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Old 06-18-2012, 06:09 PM
 
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I think Ewell Blackwell took his second straight no-hitter into the ninth before it was broken up. .
I mentioned this.
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:10 PM
 
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Cain was perfect again tonight, until the game started. Lost the no hitter to the first batter, Mike Trout.
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:34 PM
 
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Derek Lowe got a win for the Tribe today despite only pitching 5 innings and giving up 7 earned runs on 11 hits.

Looks like he is repeating his pattern from last season of starting out fairly well, and then struggling as the season goes on.
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:23 PM
 
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Derek Lowe got a win for the Tribe today despite only pitching 5 innings and giving up 7 earned runs on 11 hits.

Looks like he is repeating his pattern from last season of starting out fairly well, and then struggling as the season goes on.
Other than April, Lower was pretty consistant last season

Month xFIP
April 2.88
May 4.56
June 3.31
July 3.28
August 3.97
Sept 4.38

Most of the change in FIP is due to a change in HR/FB, which is more the providence of the batter and luck than the pitcher.

In 2012
April 4.24
May 3.79
June 4.17
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:59 PM
 
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Other than April, Lower was pretty consistant last season
Lowe in 2011:

1st half of season - 5 wins, 7 losses, 4.30 ERA, 1.381 WHIP

2nd half of season - 4 wins, 10 losses, 6.20 ERA, 1.703 WHIP, and about a 50% increase in HR per 9 innings


I'd say his performance declined the second half of the season.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:23 PM
 
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Most of the change in FIP is due to a change in HR/FB, which is more the providence of the batter and luck than the pitcher.
Isn't holding the pitcher responsible for home runs yielded one of the foundational theories upon which FIP was created? Homer runs are fielding independent? The whole three true outcomes etc?

How do we reconcile that with primary home run responsibility being shifted to batters and luck?
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:26 PM
 
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Mets RA Dickey with back to back 1 hitters, first to do this since David Stieb in 1988. He also had 13 strikeouts in this effort.
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Old 06-18-2012, 11:40 PM
 
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Game Score of 96 for Dickey tonight, topping his 95 last week.

Best games '12:

Cain 101
Cain 98
Humber 98
Dickey 96
Dickey 95
Verlander 95
Weaver 95

Cain's got the win tonight, but his Game Score was a lame 43. He lasted five innings and gave up six hits, four walks and three runs. He struck out four. He was better last time out.
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Old 06-19-2012, 12:02 AM
 
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Today showed that mlb is slowly emerging into the high tech era and correctly using technology to correct errors.

The umpires changed a long foul hit by Amaris Ramirez of the Brewers in the Toronto game at Miller Park-----they correctly reversed it to a home run and the deciding run in the Brewers 7-6 victory.

I also do not want to slow down mlb games to a crawl by massive use of replay-----but its time to use replay to correct horrendous mistakes-----allow the umpires a little more discretion on when to use replay. Or perhaps allow the managers two challenges a game.

There is nothing wrong admitting that there are some bad call in mlb games-----bad calls happen in the nfl and nba and they make better use of replay than mlb does in reversing calls.
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