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Old 04-11-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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again - further down the rabbit hole, now we are just into detail

you abhor public financing for stadiums - i merely dislike it & feel that sometimes it's a bitter pill that goes with some other positive food

honestly, not worth the time and effort to take it from here and it's even further off topic...........
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Old 04-11-2012, 04:52 PM
 
Location: On the Edge of the Fringe
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Clearly, this IS proof that Castro is on the DARKSIDE!!!!!
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Old 04-13-2012, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Almost every time he is interviewed something like this happens. Are we just realizing this now? Why do you think easy going guys like Nick Swisher have problems with him?
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Old 04-14-2012, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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The Marlins suspended him because he said something inflammatory that is now costing the Miami Marlins a ton of business. They are trying to save face with their paying customers.
Cite please....


did you see opening night? there were lots of empty seats, So. FLA is notorious for it's "fans" not being too attached to "their" teams.

if the Cubans are so populous and important to every part of the economy then why couldn't they even put a butt in every seat on opening night?

give it about a year, it will become another White elephant.








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I agree that slavery was a consideration for those settlers who chose to invest in the emerging cotton economy of Texas. But other major causes of unrest among the settlers were the requirements that they learn to speak Spanish, be loyal to the Mexican government and convert to Roman Catholicism.

But getting back to the original premise, Ozzie Guillen's comments infuriated the children and grandchildren of Cuban refugees, many of whom had been stripped of their personal property and forced to work in the agricultural fields. Although Cuba had abolished slavery in the 1880's, the treatment of these people wasn't much better.
see, this is the problem with america, everyone's a victim of something, everyone grabs onto one little minority status issue and wails at their horrors, never mind the fact that they themselves or even their parents never actually endured said hardship.

everyone feels the need today to wrap themselves up in the cloak of victimhood about some perceived wrongdoing. We've become a nation of professional victims drowning in our sorrows.

I miss the days when someone heard something that they didn't like or agree with and they simply got on with their life.
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:00 AM
 
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I'm going to call bs on that one. It's true many of the Miami Cubans had property taken from them, and did some collective labor/prison time, but then again they were in bed with the previous regime. These guys made sure most Cubans lived in poverty, while reaping massive wealth for themselves and their US corporate and US mafia benefactors.

A revolution is not a dinner party, as the saying goes, and it sucks for you if you are on the losing side.



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I agree that slavery was a consideration for those settlers who chose to invest in the emerging cotton economy of Texas. But other major causes of unrest among the settlers were the requirements that they learn to speak Spanish, be loyal to the Mexican government and convert to Roman Catholicism.

But getting back to the original premise, Ozzie Guillen's comments infuriated the children and grandchildren of Cuban refugees, many of whom had been stripped of their personal property and forced to work in the agricultural fields. Although Cuba had abolished slavery in the 1880's, the treatment of these people wasn't much better.
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Midwestern Dystopia
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announced attendance at last nights game: just over 30K

capacity: over 36K

seen with real eyes: about half full

they can't even fudge a sell-out in a brand new, several times used, state-of-the-art, white elepha... uh, I mean stadium
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Old 04-14-2012, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Hometown of Jason Witten
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When I lived in south Florida a vast majority of the people I met were either Yankee or Cub fans. I assume this is still the case.
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Old 04-14-2012, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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When I lived in south Florida a vast majority of the people I met were either Yankee or Cub fans. I assume this is still the case.
This can be said for the tampa area as well. Especially because spring training for the Yankees is right there. Even now the Rays don't have a tremendous local fan base.
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Old 04-15-2012, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Miami
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Just wanted to point out that the Marlins made people sign up for the opportunity to buy about 2000 tickets for opening day. 2 per person would be allowed. About 20,000 people signed up. Then they released a few more if you bought tickets to 4 other "selected" games. They could've easily sold out if they would've just released all available seats. I guess they tried to force people into going to more games than just opening day. Let's see what they come up with to fill the stadium in a few weeks.
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Old 04-15-2012, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Hometown of Jason Witten
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This can be said for the tampa area as well. Especially because spring training for the Yankees is right there. Even now the Rays don't have a tremendous local fan base.
And this is why I'm skeptical about MLB support in Florida.
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