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Old 05-04-2012, 07:59 AM
 
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Huge difference between AAA and majors, and many a young batting prospect has had their confidence ruined by being in the majors before they were actually ready.

Success for some extended period of time in the minors, at high levels, can do wonders for a player's confidence.

I have little doubt about Trout's or Harper's abilities, however rushing them to the majors increases their potential for failure.
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Old 05-04-2012, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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Huge difference between AAA and majors, and many a young batting prospect has had their confidence ruined by being in the majors before they were actually ready.

Success for some extended period of time in the minors, at high levels, can do wonders for a player's confidence.

I have little doubt about Trout's or Harper's abilities, however rushing them to the majors increases their potential for failure.
The above suggests that there is one formula which applies to everyone. Talent levels are not equal and when a player is ready for the majors depends on the player in question. Ken Griffey Jr. was in the big leagues to stay at age 19, Alex Rodriguez and Robin Yount at 18. Willie Mays and Henry Aaron both made it by age 20. Should those five have been kept in the minors so that they could lean to hit?

If Harper hits well now, how would it help his confidence to demote him to a less demanding level?
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Huge difference between AAA and majors, and many a young batting prospect has had their confidence ruined by being in the majors before they were actually ready.

Success for some extended period of time in the minors, at high levels, can do wonders for a player's confidence.

I have little doubt about Trout's or Harper's abilities, however rushing them to the majors increases their potential for failure.
Citation needed.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | LAA@LAD: Trout homers, steals two bases in Halos' win - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

He's only hitting 76% better than the average major league player while playing (at worst) passable outfield defense. The .412 BABIP won't last, and the power might be a bit high, but he has very solid walk and strike out rates.

Amazing to see two young players called up and performing so well so early in their careers.
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:37 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Harper is getting most of the press but Trout is dominating

Trout has an OBP of .397. That's 25% better than an average hitter.
Trout has a SLG of .523. That's 32% better than an average hitter.
Trout walks 8.9% of the time. That's 9% better than an average hitter.
Trout strikes out 19% of the time. That's 5% better than an average hitter.

Add it all up and Trout's offense is 64% better than the average major league hitter. He also plays excellent defense and runs the bases well. Not too much more than a third of the way into the season, Trout has over 3 fWAR.

Compared to Harper:
Harper gets on base 15% more than the average hitter.
His SLG is 28% better than the average hitter.
He walks 30% more than the average hitter.
He strikes out 4% less than the average hitter.

Harper's defense isn't near what Trout's is so that hurts his overall value. Harper has been worth 1.5 fWAR on the season.

Both young players are owning the league despite their age and lack of time spent in the minor leagues.

In this thread I projected Trout to hit .320/.420 on the rest of the season and Harper to hit .320/.400. Quite possible that both of those projections are low as Trout and Harper dominate beyond any reasonable expectations.
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:35 AM
 
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Defensive play of the year so far?



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Old 08-05-2012, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Defensive play of the year so far?


My gifs went away but...
Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | LAA@BAL: Trout takes a homer away from Hardy - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

today he made this one

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23618697

Not to mention he's hitting .411/.602 which is 86% better than the average major league hitter.

Mike Trout's 21st birthday is in 2 days. He'll be able to buy a beer.

He might buy one to celebrate his inclusion in the discussion of the best player in major league baseball
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Old 08-05-2012, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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My gifs went away but...
Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | LAA@BAL: Trout takes a homer away from Hardy - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

today he made this one

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | LAA@CWS: Trout robs Beckham with spectacular catch - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

Not to mention he's hitting .411/.602 which is 86% better than the average major league hitter.

Mike Trout's 21st birthday is in 2 days. He'll be able to buy a beer.

He might buy one to celebrate his inclusion in the discussion of the best player in major league baseball
His vertical leap is NBA All Star quality.
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Cook County
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One of the local radio guys here made a funny observation that Trout has a "late 90s baseball look." I think we all know what he is refering to. Seriously, looking at him, it is crazy to think how young he is. Is it unfair to Mike Trout to bring this issue up? Maybe, but MLB players do not get the benefit of the doubt with this type of situation, he can thank his predecessors for that.
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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One of the local radio guys here made a funny observation that Trout has a "late 90s baseball look." I think we all know what he is refering to. Seriously, looking at him, it is crazy to think how young he is. Is it unfair to Mike Trout to bring this issue up? Maybe, but MLB players do not get the benefit of the doubt with this type of situation, he can thank his predecessors for that.
le sigh
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