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Unread 05-07-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Sad to see a Yankee Great go out like this, he says he'll be back, I won't put much stock into that. With nothing else left to prove Mo should have retired this year with Posada. Hindsight. . .
Posada had been on a decline and it showed. Rivera was still among the top 2 or 3 closer in baseball. The stats including ERA and BB:SO don't lie.
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Unread 05-09-2012, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Posada had been on a decline and it showed. Rivera was still among the top 2 or 3 closer in baseball. The stats including ERA and BB:SO don't lie.
ERA lies all the time

BB/K doesn't lie nearly as much
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Unread 05-09-2012, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Fayetteville, NC
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If he were ten years younger, his leg wouldn't have gone out. This is not an old-man's game. There is a reason why there are not many 42-year-old MLBers. His body is telling him that it's time to quit.

care to explain these injuries?

MLB Baseball Injuries - CBSSports.com
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Unread 05-10-2012, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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ERA lies all the time

BB/K doesn't lie nearly as much
ERA can be misleading but doesn't lie. A guy who consistently has an ERA of 2 or less is a star. That makes Mariano a very bright one.
We'll see him next year.
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Unread 10-25-2012, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Mariano Rivera of New York Yankees having second thoughts about retirement, according to sources - ESPN New York

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New York Yankees general manager Brian Cashman said closer Mariano Rivera informed him earlier this week that he is unsure if he will play again or retire.

Cashman told ESPN New York that on Tuesday he and Rivera had a conversation in which Rivera said he does not know yet if he will return for a 19th season.

"He wasn't certain on what he is going to do," Cashman said.
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Unread 10-26-2012, 07:43 AM
 
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When Rivera threw out the first pitch of the game two weeks ago, I said to myself: "That's it. He is retiring." It was a bit strange to see an "active" (under contract) player throw out the first pitch. Rivera has never been one to display the need for attention. Take for example when he overcame Hoffman for #1 on the career saves list. He didn't want to come out of the dugout for the ovation.

My guess is that he knew he was retiring when he threw out that first pitch. He got his one "goodbye" moment instead of a season-long "goodbye" from baseball fans. That's probably how he'd like it.

If he does come back, it is easy to say he won't have his stuff. He has been defying critics for years. Maybe he could do it at 43. As a lifelong yankee fan, I'd like to see Rivera go out on top instead of just "fade away."
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Unread 10-26-2012, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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He doesn't need the money, and he does not need to add any other performance deeds to claim the title of the greatest relief pitcher ever, so if there is a motive for him coming back, it would only be his love of the competition and ML atmosphere. Against that is the effort required to get into pitching shape once more, as well as the risk of coming back and capping his career with a poor performance.

I have no advice for him, I figure that it is Rivera who gets to say when he is done, even though I have often found it painful to watch former superstars reduced to average or below average performances in their twilight years. On the other hand I would not try to argue that Rivera cannot return and be just as good as ever, he has already defied normal aging patterns.
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Unread 10-26-2012, 08:37 AM
 
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If his legs still have the strength to support his pitching motion, he could still be effective for another year, easily. His arm is still in very good shape, last I checked.
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Unread 10-26-2012, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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His arm is still in very good shape, last I checked.
When was that?
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Unread 10-27-2012, 01:11 AM
 
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He seems done. When you are 'wishy washy' on coming back, you're 'retired' in your mind and you just have to come to grips that the time has come. It was an incredible run, too bad it had to end this way.
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