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Old 05-23-2012, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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I nominate the Melky Cabrera / Jonathan Sanchez swap between the Giants and Royals.

Melkey is batting .356/.404/.506 and been impressive looking in the outfield.

Sanchez, in six starts is 1-2, 6.75. He has walked 22 while striking out 18 in 22 plus innings. Now he has gone on the DL with tendinitis.
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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A couple of trades off the top of my head.

The first also involves the Giants and an outfielder. The Giants traded Andres Torres for Angel Pagan. Thus far,
Torres: .337/.269 (OBP/SLG) that's a .278 wOBA which is 26% worse than a league average hitter. His bat has been worth -3 runs and all together he's been worth 2 runs for the Mets.
Pagan: .340/.451 for a .348 wOBA which is 21% better than the league average hitter. He's produced 6 runs with his bat and about 10 runs for the Mets.

The Giants have so far helped their team by 12 runs by making this trade.


A trade which I thought looked lopsided at the time and looks even worse now is the Rockies and Orioles swap of starting pitchers Jason Hammel and Jeremy Guthrie. So far,
Hammel 5 - 1 3.12. He's struck out 23% of batters while walking 8%. Add in a 59% ground balls and Hammels has pitched 32% better than an average pitcher. He's produced 12 runs in value for the Orioles.
Guthrie 2 - 2 5.55. He's struck out just 8% of batters and walked 10%. He gets ground balls just 40% of the time and in sum has pitched 53% worse than the average pitcher. He's cost the Rockies 3 runs.

This trade has benefited the Orioles by 15 runs.


The third trade which I thought of was the Jesus Monterro for Michael Pineda swap. Monterro hasn't exactly lit the M's offense of fire. He's hitting just .287/.413 which is a .300 wOBA which is 8% worse than a league average hitter. He's produced about 1 run above replacement.

However, Michael Pineda didn't make it out of spring training.

Monterro should provide something like an average bat for the M's for the 6 years that he is under their control. Pineda might never pitch in the majors again.
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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A couple of trades off the top of my head.

The first also involves the Giants and an outfielder. The Giants traded Andres Torres for Angel Pagan. Thus far,
Torres: .337/.269 (OBP/SLG) that's a .278 wOBA which is 26% worse than a league average hitter. His bat has been worth -3 runs and all together he's been worth 2 runs for the Mets.
Pagan: .340/.451 for a .348 wOBA which is 21% better than the league average hitter. He's produced 6 runs with his bat and about 10 runs for the Mets.

The Giants have so far helped their team by 12 runs by making this trade.
Update:
Torres has a .346/.312 OBP/SLG which is a .302 wOBA which is 10% worse than league average. His bat has produced -2 runs for the mets and he's been worth 10.2 runs in total for the Mets.
Pagan has a .333/.414 OBP/SLG which is a .328 wOBA which is 5% better than the league average. His bat has produced 5 runs for the Giants and he's been worth 18 runs overall.

Torres is closing the gap but is still 8 runs behind Pagan.


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A trade which I thought looked lopsided at the time and looks even worse now is the Rockies and Orioles swap of starting pitchers Jason Hammel and Jeremy Guthrie. So far,
Hammel 5 - 1 3.12. He's struck out 23% of batters while walking 8%. Add in a 59% ground balls and Hammels has pitched 32% better than an average pitcher. He's produced 12 runs in value for the Orioles.
Guthrie 2 - 2 5.55. He's struck out just 8% of batters and walked 10%. He gets ground balls just 40% of the time and in sum has pitched 53% worse than the average pitcher. He's cost the Rockies 3 runs.

This trade has benefited the Orioles by 15 runs.
Update:
Hammel has K'd 23% of hitters while walking 9%. He's getting 53% ground balls and his 24% better than the average pitcher. He's been worth 26 runs less (which is good) than a replacement pitcher.

Guthrie was terrible for the Rockies and was traded to Kansas City for Jonathan Sanchez. Their stats are here. They've combined to give up 9 more (which is bad) runs than a replacement pitcher.

Baltimore has a 35 run advantage in this trade.



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The third trade which I thought of was the Jesus Monterro for Michael Pineda swap. Monterro hasn't exactly lit the M's offense of fire. He's hitting just .287/.413 which is a .300 wOBA which is 8% worse than a league average hitter. He's produced about 1 run above replacement.

However, Michael Pineda didn't make it out of spring training.

Monterro should provide something like an average bat for the M's for the 6 years that he is under their control. Pineda might never pitch in the majors again.
Update:
Pineda continues to be injured with no prognosis for return

Montero is hitting .311/.394 which is a .300 wOBA which is 10% worse than an average hitter. He's produced 1 run for the Mariners, which is, of course, 1 more than Pineda
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Old 08-11-2012, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Hometown of Jason Witten
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The Pirates should be very pleased with the Burnett trade.
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Old 08-21-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Can't believe this one didn't get mentioned

Oakland sends Andrew Bailey and Ryan Sweeney to Oakland for Josh Reddick and minor leaguers Miles Head and Raul Alcantara.

Josh Reddick blew up and is hitting .317/.486 on the season which is 20% better than the league average and 13 batting runs better than average. His defensive rating is quite high at 11 runs above average so his overall 3.9 WAR may be over stated a bit but it looks like Reddick will be a 4 WAR player this season.

Andrew Bailey has faced 6 batters for the Red Sox. He's K'd half of them, walked 1 and given up a hit. Even if Bailey hadn't been injured there's no way he would have put up anything close to 4 WAR.

Ryan Sweeney also went to Boston. He hit .303/.373 which is (not close to what Reddick hit) 22% worse than the average and 5 runs worse than the average hitter. He's also a good fielder but between not hitting, and spending time on the DL he's only managed .7 WAR.

Then there are the two prospects that Boston sent to Oakland. 1B/OF Miles head destroyed at A-ball but has struggled a bit at AA. His K% shot up from 20ish percent to over 30%. And he hasn't show much power. He's youngish for the league, though and is still an interesting prospect. Pitcher Raul Alcantrara is middling along in A-ball failing to strike out many more batters than he's walking.

I think the Sox would like to have this trade back.
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Old 08-24-2012, 12:31 AM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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Tom Milone & Derek Norris to the A's for Gio Gonzalez. One of the rare times where a trade actually benefited BOTH teams.

Edit: Since the Derek Norris call up pretty much lead to Kurt Suzuki being traded to Washington, we may as well include him in there on the trade.
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Old 08-31-2012, 02:54 PM
 
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The Alonso/Grandal/Volquez/Boxberger/Kitchen Sink to Padres for Mat Latos trade seems to be working out for everyone.

I still think the Reds gave up too much, but Alonso wasn't going to play with Votto in the way and Volquez was done.
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Old 09-01-2012, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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Best in season trade?

I nominate the Gonzalez -Loney trade.

Since joining the RedSox, Loney has posted .364 .391 .500.

Since becoming a Dodger Gonzalez has posted 188 .257 .281
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