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Old 07-29-2012, 02:28 PM
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So, let me see if I understand YOU.

You are saying that the NL East is strong because one of the teams is not as good as people thought?

You see why I said this?

Since 2008. the Phillies never had any competition in the NL East and It was clear in May that the Nats, Braves, and Mets were IMPROVED which made the division stronger this year. Especially since all 3 teams still have more wins than the Phillies and it's almost August.


I think 2012 is the turning point of the Phillies dominating the NL east because the Nats are the 2007 version of the Phillies. The Nats are not going anywhere for a while as the Phillies continue to get older.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:19 PM
 
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Your perception is screwed, due to the Phillies having an off year. If the Phillies were playing like the Phillies it would be a two team race.

As it stands now, the AL East, AL Central, AL West and NL Central are all stronger divisions. Nats will be exposed in the playoffs as a young team who do not understand the pressure of winning in the playoffs.

Also, while your thread was started in May, you were proclaiming that division to be the strongest, which would infer to it being the strongest division for the league year.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:27 PM
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Your perception is screwed, due to the Phillies having an off year. If the Phillies were playing like the Phillies it would be a two team race.

As it stands now, the AL East, AL Central, AL West and NL Central are all stronger divisions. Nats will be exposed in the playoffs as a young team who do not understand the pressure of winning in the playoffs.

Also, while your thread was started in May, you were proclaiming that division to be the strongest, which would infer to it being the strongest division for the league year.


Off year my foot their dominance of the NL is now in progress according to the last 2 years.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:36 PM
 
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A better question is when the last time the AL West was this strong? Probably ten years ago.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:37 PM
 
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Since 2007, they have been the best team in the NL East. This is not a last 2 year thing. They have had a solid foothold for a while and were very competitive before that.


2011 94-68 .401 1st
2010 102-60 .630 1st
2009 93-69 .574 1st
2008 92-70 .568 1st
2007 89-73 .549 1st
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:40 PM
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Since 2006 they have been the best team. This is an off year.

2006 2006 NL East 2nd 85 77 .525 12
Ryan Howard (MVP)[105] 2007 2007 NL East* 1st 89 73 .549 Lost NLDS to Colorado Rockies, 30[106] Jimmy Rollins (MVP)[105] 2008 2008 NL East* 1st 92 70 .568 Won NLDS vs. Milwaukee Brewers, 31
Won NLCS vs. Los Angeles Dodgers, 41
Won World Series vs. Tampa Bay Rays, 41 Brad Lidge (DMOY, CLO,[u] CPOY)[v]
Charlie Manuel (MGR)[w]
Pat Gillick (EXEC)[x]
Chase Utley (PMY)[y]
Cole Hamels (LCSMVP,[z] WSMVP)[aa] 2009 2009 NL East* 1st 93 69 .574 Won NLDS vs. Colorado Rockies, 31
Won NLCS vs. Los Angeles Dodgers, 41
Lost World Series to New York Yankees, 42 J.A. Happ (ROY)[107]
Jayson Werth (UnsungPOY)[108]
Ruben Amaro, Jr. (EXEC)[109]
Ryan Howard (LCSMVP)[z] 2010 2010 NL East* 1st 97 65 .599 Won NLDS vs. Cincinnati Reds, 30
Lost NLCS to San Francisco Giants, 42
Roy Halladay (CYA,[110] SPOY,[111] ClutchPOY,[112] PMY)[113]
Carlos Ruiz (X-FactorPOY)[114] 2011 2011 NL East* 1st 102 60 .630 Lost NLDS to St. Louis Cardinals, 32


They haven't made the WS since 2009 which proves their domination of the NL took a slight turn in 2010. The final result of every season is the whole story.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:51 PM
 
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The final result of every season is the whole story.
If this is how you truely feel then there's no reason for you to make any more posts until after the World Series.

I look forward to your silence.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:57 PM
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If this is how you truely feel then there's no reason for you to make any more posts until after the World Series.

I look forward to your silence.

My point is the postseason is how you judge the direction of a franchise not by the total of postseason wins. Now maybe the Nats will fall apart in the playoffs but if they do atleast it's their first appearance and they can build on that. The phillies won't be in the playoffs at all after losing in the 1st round last year and that says a LOT.
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Old 07-29-2012, 11:57 PM
 
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This thread was posted in May and in 2 days it will be AUGUST so your post is silly

So my answer should have been "2 months ago". Obviously, when the thread was posted, the NLE was not strong at all, it just appeared to be after a few weeks of the season based on several teams playing way over their heads. So the thread "is sillly".
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:14 AM
 
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My point is the postseason is how you judge the direction of a franchise not by the total of postseason wins. Now maybe the Nats will fall apart in the playoffs but if they do atleast it's their first appearance and they can build on that. The phillies won't be in the playoffs at all after losing in the 1st round last year and that says a LOT.
So the team from the NL East lost in the playoffs last season. How can you say that the NL East is strong?

A team from the NL Central won the world series so that must be the strongest division according to your logic, correct?

So just don't post any more until we know who wins in the post season.

kthxbye
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