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Old 06-06-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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By two counts (UZR and TZ) Soriano has been a very good defensive OFer with the Cubs.

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I'm confident that anyone who watched the Cubs-Giants series this past weekend would not be stating that Soriano is a good defensive outfielder.

As for metrics, Baseball Reference does not seem to think that Alfonso has been too slick with his glove, at least not for the past four seasons nor for this season.

Defensive WAR for Soriano as a Cub:
'07 1.2
'08 -0.3
'09 -2.0
'10 -2.1
'11 -1.6
'12 (so far) -0.1

That is a total of -4.8 WAR on defense.

To date Soriano has been paid 79 million dollars by the Cubs and in return they have received 4.9 WAR overall. That works out to 16 million bucks per win above replacement level...what was the ML average again?
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Old 06-07-2012, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Yeah, except those numbers dont account for his fear of ivy, in which he lets balls sail over his head that he could have made an effort on. Or balls that he fields on one bounce instead of going after like any other LF'er in the majors would do.
Those are actually the exact things that UZR and TZ attempt to quantify.
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Old 06-09-2012, 07:31 AM
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Location: Suburban Dallas
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Default Another Cub Flub

Can you say 1-0-4??! That's going to be the consecutive number of seasons that the little North Siders will go without winning a championship. Just sad.

The way they're playing now, that could also be the number of losses they end up with this season.
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Old 06-25-2012, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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If Rizzo was called up, how would they get both he and LaHair into the lineup at the same time?
We're about to find out

Rizzo to make long-awaited Cubs debut Tuesday - chicagotribune.com
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Anthony Rizzo, the Chicago Cubs' top prospect, will make his debut Tuesday night against the New York Mets, a source confirmed.
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Cubs fans should probably temper their expectations regarding Rizzo. Sure, he's destroying AAA, but he was destroying AAA last year when San Diego called him up.

2011 AAA: .404/.652 (OBP/SLG) 49% better than average
2011 MLB: .281/.252 41% worse than average

2012 AAA: .410/.710 80% better than average
2012 MLB: ???

A couple of things, of course. Rizzo wasn't good in a brief cup-o-joe last season, but he's certainly a better player than those numbers he put up. Second, Wrigley is a much better place for left-handed hitters than Petco. According to Statcorner, Petco decreases total offense by left-handed batters by 10% while Wrigley increases left-handed offense by 4%. He should get a boost just by getting out of Petco.

I'd put Rizzo something along the lines of a .340/.450 hitter for the rest of the season (maybe a bit higher if the Cubs limit his PA's vs lefties). Expect something like:
80 games, 330 PA's, 75 hits, 20 doubles, 10 HR, 30 BB and 85 K's
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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Yeah, except those numbers dont account for his fear of ivy, in which he lets balls sail over his head that he could have made an effort on.
He's probably more afraid of the brick wall behind the ivy than the ivy itself.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:42 PM
 
Location: NY
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Nobody should expect him to duplicate his AAA numbers in the bigs. However, I do not think his callup with the Padres last year is representative of his abilities either. He is very young (22 now) and might just have been overwhelmed in his first trip to the show.

Time will tell. The Cubs need him to develop into a big time bat for them. However, they likely won't be looking to contend until at least 2014, so he has time to mature and grow too.
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