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Old 05-06-2016, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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I'm sorry but Max Scherzer is not the pitcher the Nats thought they were getting when they gave him that huge contract. He gets hammered by good teams and in big games all too often. Then he'll beat some weak team with 14 K's and we are supposed to be impressed.

I think he only knows how to get batters out with power and strikeouts. Dude needs to get another pitch or something, good hitters are on to him.
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Old 05-06-2016, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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I'm sorry but Max Scherzer is not the pitcher the Nats thought they were getting when they gave him that huge contract. He gets hammered by good teams and in big games all too often. Then he'll beat some weak team with 14 K's and we are supposed to be impressed.

I think he only knows how to get batters out with power and strikeouts. Dude needs to get another pitch or something, good hitters are on to him.

Definitely won't disagree with you there. I think I said in the 14-15 off season discussion thread that he better win us a ring in the next 5 seasons because his contract was going to be a complete albatross by the year 2020. (last season was a flop, we don't have a chance against the Cubs this year or next year or in 2018 or 2019 probably, and there's the window). And frankly we didn't even NEED him last year either. We already had 5 capable starters already, and even if Roark was ineffective, or someone got hurt for an extended period of time we had arms in the minors in: Ross, AJ Cole, Blake Treinen (got converted into a reliever last year), Taylor Hill, Taylor Jordan. So, it's not like we were short arms in AAA or AA and we signed Scherzer so we could send our projected #5 to AAA to add "rotational depth." And if you make the playoffs, you can't even pitch all 5 of your aces anyways so it's better to have 1 or even 2 "aces" than 2 or 3 or 4 "good to average inning eaters" who will give you 6 innings on 4 run ball, not great like an ace, but not bad enough where he buries you in the 2nd inning, keeps you in the game. Should've saved the Scherzer money to resign Strasburg this coming off season (Jordan Zimmermann was leaving regardless, but I think Stras is gone now), and spent the money last year to sign a relief pitcher like Joaquin Benoit or LaTroy Hawkins, and then signed a capable bat off the bench. The Nats bench has been one of the worst in the NL the past couple seasons.
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Old 05-07-2016, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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Nats 6 @ Cubs 8.


Don't be fooled by the final score. The 4 run 8th inning was the equivalent of a 4th quarter garbage time touchdown in football to turn a 20 point game to a 14 point game, or a garbage time 4th quarter in the NBA against bench players which turns a 25 point lead to a 10 point lead. Really after the 6th inning when the Cubs took the 8-2 lead the game was never that much in doubt. Rendon hit a homer in the first, and Scherzer got a homer in the 2nd to put the Nats up 2-0. Tommy La Stella tied it in the bottom half of the 2nd. Anthony Rizzo hit a "homer" in the 3rd to put the Cubs in front for good 3-2, and Ben Zobrist followed with his first of what would be 2 homers on the day. I put the Rizzo "homer" in quotes because it should've been ruled a foul ball. The ball hit off of the Cubs flag in right field which is in FOUL territory. Zobrist put the Cubs up 5 with a 3 run homer in the 5th, and the Cubs finished their scoring for the day with a Dexter Fowler single. Werth double in the 8th brought home Harper & Murphy while Ramos hit a 2 run homer later on for the final 8-6 margin. Scherzer (3-3) allowed 7 hits, and 7 runs on 4 homers with 3 walks and 7 strikeouts in 5 innings . Lackey (4-1) pitched 7 innings allowing 6 hits, 2 runs, 1 walk and had 11 strikeouts including the 2,000th of his career.


Cubs will look to win the series on Saturday. Notorious Nats killer Jason Hammel (4-0, 1.24) takes the ball for the Cubs. He is 9-0 in 11 career starts against the Nationals and has won 8 straight decisions. Gio Gonzalez (2-1, 1.15) takes the ball for the Nats with first pitch scheduled for 4:05 PM.
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Old 05-07-2016, 01:08 PM
 
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Cubs will look to win the series on Saturday. Notorious Nats killer Jason Hammel (4-0, 1.24) takes the ball for the Cubs. He is 9-0 in 11 career starts against the Nationals and has won 8 straight decisions. Gio Gonzalez (2-1, 1.15) takes the ball for the Nats with first pitch scheduled for 4:05 PM.



9-0!!!! Unreal!
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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9-0!!!! Unreal!


He won't get the win today, but the Cubs bats bailed him out for a no decision so he stays unbeaten against them in 12 career starts. Unreal!
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Old 05-07-2016, 07:45 PM
 
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He won't get the win today, but the Cubs bats bailed him out for a no decision so he stays unbeaten against them in 12 career starts. Unreal!



And not a special pitcher. Ordinary.
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Old 05-08-2016, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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Nats 5 @ Cubs 8.


Back and forth game. Unfortunately, do to a monumental error and timely Cubs hitting (again!) the Cubs have the series win. Nats got on the board first in the 3rd with a Harper sac fly. Cubs tied it in the bottom half with a Fowler triple. Cubs took the lead in the 4th on a Kris Bryant home run. Nats retook the lead in the 5th; singles by Espinosa and Harper put the Nats back in front 3-2. They added to the lead in the 6th with a Drew double scoring Rendon but should've scored more. They had Drew on 3rd with 1 out with that 4-2 score but Gio Gonzalez bunted into a double play with Drew getting tagged out in a rundown and then Gio Gonzalez getting thrown out trying to advance to 2nd, and then the Cubs retook the lead in the bottom half. Addison Russell doubled to get the Cubs within 1, and than pinch hitter Ryan Kalish hit a 2 out 2 strike pinch hit single to shallow LF that just alluded the diving Espinosa to put the Cubs back up 1 at 5-4. Nats tied it at 5 in the top half when a Zimmerman fielders choice scored Revere who lead off the inning with a triple. Cubs took the lead for good on a Russell double that hit off Harper's glove near the wall in foul territory in RF. Cubs added the final run in the 8th on a Zobrist single. Both starters received no decisions. Gonzalez lasted 5.2 innings allowing 7 hits, 5 runs, 1 walk, 2 strikeoutsd and 1 home run. Jason Hammel lasted 5 innings allowing 4 hits, 3 runs, 3 strikeouts and 4 walks. He keeps his undefeated record against the Nats. Solis (0-1, 1st blown save) took the loss for the Nats pitching 0.2 innings with 2 runs on 2 hits with 2 walks and 1 strikeout. Adam Warren (3-0, 1st blown save) got the win pitching 1 inning with 0 hits, 1 walk and 1 strikeout but allowed Revere to score the tying run. Pedro Strop (7th hold) pitched a 1-2-3 9th striking out the side and Hector Rondon (6th save) pitched a 1-2-3 9th on 8 pitches with 1 strikeout.


Cubs will go for the sweep this afternoon. Tanner Roark (2-2, 2.35) takes the ball for the Nats while the best pitcher on the planet right now Jake Arrieta (6-0, 0.84) takes the ball for the Cubs. Game time scheduled for 2:20 PM.
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Old 05-08-2016, 08:58 AM
 
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Nats 5 @ Cubs 8.


Back and forth game. Unfortunately, do to a monumental error and timely Cubs hitting (again!) the Cubs have the series win. Nats got on the board first in the 3rd with a Harper sac fly. Cubs tied it in the bottom half with a Fowler triple. Cubs took the lead in the 4th on a Kris Bryant home run. Nats retook the lead in the 5th; singles by Espinosa and Harper put the Nats back in front 3-2. They added to the lead in the 6th with a Drew double scoring Rendon but should've scored more. They had Drew on 3rd with 1 out with that 4-2 score but Gio Gonzalez bunted into a double play with Drew getting tagged out in a rundown and then Gio Gonzalez getting thrown out trying to advance to 2nd, and then the Cubs retook the lead in the bottom half. Addison Russell doubled to get the Cubs within 1, and than pinch hitter Ryan Kalish hit a 2 out 2 strike pinch hit single to shallow LF that just alluded the diving Espinosa to put the Cubs back up 1 at 5-4. Nats tied it at 5 in the top half when a Zimmerman fielders choice scored Revere who lead off the inning with a triple. Cubs took the lead for good on a Russell double that hit off Harper's glove near the wall in foul territory in RF. Cubs added the final run in the 8th on a Zobrist single. Both starters received no decisions. Gonzalez lasted 5.2 innings allowing 7 hits, 5 runs, 1 walk, 2 strikeoutsd and 1 home run. Jason Hammel lasted 5 innings allowing 4 hits, 3 runs, 3 strikeouts and 4 walks. He keeps his undefeated record against the Nats. Solis (0-1, 1st blown save) took the loss for the Nats pitching 0.2 innings with 2 runs on 2 hits with 2 walks and 1 strikeout. Adam Warren (3-0, 1st blown save) got the win pitching 1 inning with 0 hits, 1 walk and 1 strikeout but allowed Revere to score the tying run. Pedro Strop (7th hold) pitched a 1-2-3 9th striking out the side and Hector Rondon (6th save) pitched a 1-2-3 9th on 8 pitches with 1 strikeout.


Cubs will go for the sweep this afternoon. Tanner Roark (2-2, 2.35) takes the ball for the Nats while the best pitcher on the planet right now Jake Arrieta (6-0, 0.84) takes the ball for the Cubs. Game time scheduled for 2:20 PM.



Why was Solis closing instead of Pap?
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Old 05-08-2016, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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Why was Solis closing instead of Pap?

Because it was the 7th inning when that took place. Another reason the "save" statistic is the biggest joke in sports, and an incredibly useless statistic. I remember Terry Francona last year brought in his "closer" in the 5th inning because the bases were loaded and the game was either tied or they were down 1. Now 5th inning seems a little early, but if that was the 7th inning I'd have no problem using your closer in that situation because they should be put in the highest leverage situation a "save" be damned. And I think pitchers that pitch in the 7th or 8th end up facing a tougher "situation" then the pitcher pitching the 9th, let the guy pitching the 9th gets the "save" even though the pitcher in the 8th did all the work and only gets a "hold" to show for it??
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Old 05-08-2016, 02:39 PM
 
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Because it was the 7th inning when that took place. Another reason the "save" statistic is the biggest joke in sports, and an incredibly useless statistic. I remember Terry Francona last year brought in his "closer" in the 5th inning because the bases were loaded and the game was either tied or they were down 1. Now 5th inning seems a little early, but if that was the 7th inning I'd have no problem using your closer in that situation because they should be put in the highest leverage situation a "save" be damned. And I think pitchers that pitch in the 7th or 8th end up facing a tougher "situation" then the pitcher pitching the 9th, let the guy pitching the 9th gets the "save" even though the pitcher in the 8th did all the work and only gets a "hold" to show for it??



I did not realize they used that for non-closers. Thought it was a blown hold in prior innings.


I also hate the save as defined. IMO it should only be if closer comes n, tying run up. A 1 inning 1 run lead does that, or coming in during a prior inning could.
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