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Old 05-08-2017, 06:06 PM
 
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This is baseball, not Boy Scouts. There is further too much over-reaction to E!-Entertainment rumors regarding Papelbon and too little regard for what the cost to acquire any of these "better options" would have been.

As noted, the Papelbon deal may indeed have been the worst deal of Rizzo's eight years as GM in DC, but that is because of how good the rest of his record is, not because the deal was a bad one at the time it was made.
It was horrible. Storen was very good. He fixed what was no broken.
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Old 05-09-2017, 09:04 AM
 
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As the Royals (in the wake of others) had illustrated, one path to going deep into the playoffs is a shutdown bullpen that can make it a 6-inning game. Storen had been enjoying another fine season in 2015, but there were certainly known chinks in his armor and not a lot backing him up. Seeking to shore up the 7th and 8th inning situations for a post-season run was hardly an unreasonable thing to do at the time, and Papelbon was available at a reasonable price.
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Old 05-10-2017, 08:53 AM
 
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I never understood why the Nats continue to go into every season without an established closer. Name me one team that made a deep October run that didn't have an established closer? Yet every year they consider themselves contenders but with a giant hole that they try to scramble and fill in the middle of the season.
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Old 05-11-2017, 12:17 PM
 
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Nationals leaders in Saves...

2005 -- Chad Cordero
2006 -- Chad Cordero
2007 -- Chad Cordero
2008 -- Jon Rauch
2009 -- Mike McDougall
2010 -- Matt Capps
2011 -- Drew Storen
2012 -- Tyler Clippard
2013 -- Rafael Soriano
2014 -- Rafael Soriano
2015 -- Drew Storen
2016 -- Jonathan Papelbon
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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Well, the bad news: The bullpen still stinks up the joint, and the starters aren't going very deep into games anymore which makes this stinky bullpen pitch even more than they should be pitching.
The good news: Even with this rough patch (5 losses in their last 9 games) they still have MLB's 4th best record and the 2nd best record in the NL. They are also still up 8 games in the division because the rest of the NL East is God awful as the other 4 teams can't get out of their own way. They could probably win 60 games the rest of the season and still cruise to the division championship at 85 wins with how terrible the Mets & Marlins have been, so I really don't care how they finish the rest of the season. Just keep everyone healthy and actually have a full roster for a playoff series for once! I'd rather win 83 games and have the 3rd seed in the NL with a full roster in tact than finish with 103 wins, the #1 seed in the NL but with Zimmerman, Harper & Scherzer banged up and out of action.


May 8: Nats 4 @ Orioles 6. O's had 3 homers in the first inning that I had the misfortune of watching at the gate waiting for the flight. The when I got on the flight I had the misfortune of listening to the final out.....that little leaguers would be ashamed of! After Weiters doubled to bring the tying run to the plate with 1 out Lind got a bad read and had to stay at 3rd, Brian Goodwin hit a ground ball to first that should have scored Lind, and would have scored Lind if he broke on contact (the O's had no interest in throwing home to get Lind either) but he broke late, and the O's ended the game getting Lind out at home. Tough 2 minute sequence for them.
May 9: Nats 4 @ Orioles 5 (12 innings). Crappy relievers gave up 3 runs in the final 3 innings as they blew a 4-2 9th inning lead and then lost in extras.
May 10: Orioles 6 @ Nats 7. Weiters had the walk off single in the 9th as the Nats came back from deficits of 5-1 and 6-2 with 5 runs in the 8th and 9th for the 2nd straight walkoff in this series.
May 11: Orioles 0 @ Nats 0 (postponed). Postponed due to a torrential downpour in DC. I believe that game will be made up on June 8.
Friday: Phillies 0 @ Nats 0 (postponed). Postponed from the remnants of the monsoon that went through DC the prior 2 days. This was rescheduled as the second game of a day-night double header on Sunday, the 14
Saturday: Phillies 4 @ Nats 6. In the afternoon, Harper signed a $21.625 million contract for next season, the final year of his contract before he can test free agency, and than in the evening completed the Nats comeback from 0-4 down with a walkoff 2 run homer.
Sunday game 1: Phillies 4 @ Nats 3. Another Nats bullpen specialty! Phillies scored 3 runs in the 9th as the Nats bullpen sealed defeat from the jaws of victory once again this year!
Sunday game 2: Phillies 5 @ Nats 6. The bullpen almost did it again, giving up the lead in the 8th again, but this time they got bailed out by Michael Taylor who homered in the bottom half to win it.
Tuesday: Nats 8 @ Pirates 4. Wilmer Difo had his second career home run giving Murph a rare day off.
Wednesday: Nats 1 @ Pirates 6. Gerrit Cole allowed only 3 hits, as the Nats finished with 1 more hit (3) than errors (2). That's usually not a good recipe for winning games.
Thursday: Nats 4 @ Pirates 10. Adam Frazier accounted for 6 of the Pirates 10 runs with 2 runs scored and 4 RBI's as Tanner Roark was very ineffective: 114 pitches through 5+ innings (2 batters faced in the 6th). 114 pitches and only 66 strikes meaning almost half of his pitches were balls.


Nats start a 3 game series in Atlanta on Friday: R.A. Dickey (3-3, 4.22) starts for the Braves against Gio Gonzalez (3-1, 2.47) Friday, Bartolo Colon (2-4, 6.80) faces Max Scherzer (4-2, 2.80) Saturday, and Stephen Strasburg (4-1, 3.42) faces Jaime Garcia (1-2, 4.65) in the series finale Sunday. Friday's game is at 7:35, Saturday is at 4:10 and Sunday is at 1:35. Pirates welcome the Phillies into Pittsburgh this weekend for the first Keystone state matchup of the season Friday-Sunday.
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:39 PM
 
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I never understood why the Nats continue to go into every season without an established closer. Name me one team that made a deep October run that didn't have an established closer? Yet every year they consider themselves contenders but with a giant hole that they try to scramble and fill in the middle of the season.
2014 Giants? Sergio Romo: 3.72 ERA, 3.94 FIP, 23 saves
Was he established? Depends what you mean by that
Was he good? Not really
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Old 05-20-2017, 01:06 AM
 
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Breaking News:


Nats bullpen blows another!


Yes, I am completely shocked! THIS bullpen blowing a lead?? NEVER!
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Old 05-21-2017, 09:57 PM
 
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Friday: Nats 4 @ Braves 7. Enny Romero allowed a 2 run homer to Kurt Suzuki in the 8th inning for ANOTHER bullpen loss as they blew leads of 3-2 and 4-3.
Saturday: Rio Ruiz, Matt Kemp, and Tyler Flowers each had home runs and the Braves bullpen does something that the Nats bullpen cannot do: Protect a damn lead as 5 Braves relievers retire 14 of the 15 Nats batters that came to the plate (including the final 11) after Bartolo Colon exited the game in the 5th inning of a 3-2 game.
Sunday: Nats 3 @ Braves 2. Murph homer in the 2nd got the Nats on the board (after they wasted a 1 out triple from Difo in the first) and got their final 2 runs in the 3rd on a Harper single and a Zimmerman double play which scored Difo. Dansby Swanson had a 2 run double in the 8th for the 2 Braves runs.


Nats head home for an interleague series against the Seattle Mariners Tuesday-Thursday. Jacob Turner (2-2, 3.74) will start for the Nats against Christian Bergman (1-1, 2.25), Sam Gaviglio (0-0, 1.29) faces Tanner Roark (3-2, 4.73) on Wednesday, and the season finale on Thursday will see Ariel Miranda (3-2, 4.28), an ex Oriole product square off against Gio Gonzalez (3-1, 2.86). Tuesday & Wednesday games are at 7:05 while Thursday will go at 4:05. Braves will stay at home as the Pirates come to Atlanta for 4 games beginning on Monday night.

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Old 05-24-2017, 06:54 AM
 
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So the Nats offense has now put double-digits on the board in all of Joe Ross's starts this year, totaling a pretty amazing 62 runs scored in those four games. Over the long haul, Ross himself will be more important to the club based on his mound work, and while it was of course over-hyped in the media, it was a positive effort last night, even as banged up as the Mariners are. Ross has the tools and the temperament to be just about the best 5th starter in the league if he can get it all clicking at the same time. He had some breaks along the way, but getting through eight solid innings here was certainly a step in the right direction for him.
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Old 05-24-2017, 04:40 PM
 
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He had 10 (11??) runs on the board by the 4th inning, I would hope he would be able to go 7 or 8 innings! I'd rather have had him underhand it to Mariners batters than fall into a 2-0 or 3-1 count after the 5th inning.
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