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Old 10-06-2012, 12:03 PM
 
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I don't endorse the behavior of my fellow fans who throw debris onto the field and I didn't partake in it but all of those faux outrage and phony baloney moral high horse soapboxing is ridiculous. All of this "only in Atlanta" BS is garbage. Until this game everyone criticized Atlantans as being too passive and fair weathered. Situations like this happen at sporting events with some frequency and it's not unique to Atlanta. Situations like this have happened for less in other cities. So lets all stop pretending like this is some national outrage.
This has nothing to do with my point. I do not care what city this incident happened in, it is unacceptable and fans should not take it so seriously to the point they must act like savages towards something that has very little effect on them. Just because people payed to watch a game, it does not guaranteed an automatic win under any circumstances.

Turner Field was the venue of last night game so Braves fans made themselves the target. If this happened in Busch Stadium, my reaction wouldn't be any different.
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Maybe the worst thing about this is that the umpires may begin favoring the home team, in order to avoid these kinds of demonstrations in the future. The Cardinals lost a World Series on a worse call than that by Don Denkinger in 1985, but the bad call favored the home team so there was no fallout. And again in 1987, a call just as bad in game seven, but again it favored the home team.

As for the interference call on Simmons, that was probably the most flagrant swerve out of the 3-foot lane I've ever seen. He was so far out of the lane, a blind ump could have called it by directionalizing the sound of his footsteps.
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Old 10-06-2012, 12:43 PM
 
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. The Cardinals lost a World Series on a worse call than that by Don Denkinger in 1985, .
The Cardinals lost Game Six, not the series, the blown call was one out that St. Louis should have had but didn't. The Royals had ten hits and three walks in that game to the Cardinals five hits and two walks, so the game wasn't won or lost on that one call, it was one lousy out which escaped.

The Cardinals lost the Series the following day in Game Seven when the whole team blew up and just gave up, one of the worst displays of bad sportsmanship I can recall in a WS. In the fifth inning, when they were down 5-0 and things went to hell....at 9-0 Herzog decided to run up the white flag by bringing in Joaquin Andujar in what was already an extremely hostile situation with the umpires......"There's a fire! Quick, get the arsonist with the gasoline can!"

Anjudar's ejection after just two batters was probably the most easily predicted heave ho in all of ML history.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:46 PM
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Right. It's just a prime time TV show, performed before a live studio audience for advertising money.
It's never just a game to a sports fan. People attend games because they care and want to see someone win or lose.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:47 PM
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ESPN didn't make a big deal out of the Atlanta fans throwing bottles I guess because they don't have a reputation like philly fans.
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:49 PM
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You started this stupid conversation so you are already in it. Professional sports is for entertainment, it is not a livelihood. Fans do not play the game.

Those same Braves fans that threw a hissy fit will continue to pay money to watch this team next year. Win or lose, no fans physically gain or lose anything from a sports game. They get up out of seats, navigate their ways into their cars, go home and get on with their life. The Braves made several key errors throughout the game and that why they ultimately loss. Nonetheless, there is no excuse for spectators who have no physical impact on the game to throw debris out on the field.
If you are not HAPPY or SAD after a game then why are you watching it?
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:23 PM
 
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The Cardinals lost Game Six, not the series, the blown call was one out that St. Louis should have had but didn't.

Even though it was game 6, it was the ninth inning of the series clincher, and they had the lead, and therefore the WS win, unless the runner who was called safe scored. The run that denied them the WS win scored when there were two outs, and should have been three out = game over = series over.

IF Denkinger makes the right call, there are three outs before the tying and winning run score, the Cardinals win the world series immediately, at the end of that very same inning. (Assuming all other things play out equally).
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Old 10-06-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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Even though it was game 6, it was the ninth inning of the series clincher, and they had the lead, and therefore the WS win, unless the runner who was called safe scored. The run that denied them the WS win scored when there were two outs, and should have been three out = game over = series over.

IF Denkinger makes the right call, there are three outs before the tying and winning run score, the Cardinals win the world series immediately, at the end of that very same inning. (Assuming all other things play out equally).
In a seven game series a team has 189 outs before they are eliminated. The Cardinals were gyped out of one of those outs. One play doth not determine the winner of a series. The Cardinals lost for numerous reasons, you could focus on any inning in which they failed to score and say "This is where they lost the series" and it would be as meaningful as your focus on the one play in Game Six.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:07 PM
 
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If you are not HAPPY or SAD after a game then why are you watching it?
I already answer your question within the post you replied to. I am a fan but I do not let the game take over my life.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:33 PM
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I already answer your question within the post you replied to. I am a fan but I do not let the game take over my life.
So if your team loses you are not disappointed for atleast 2 hours after the game is over? If the answer is NO then you should watch Wrestling instead.
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