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Old 12-08-2012, 08:28 PM
 
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Zach to the Dodgers
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:01 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Zach to the Dodgers
6 years, $147.5 million. Biggest contract ever for a right handed pitcher. Highest average annual value for any pitcher.

Kershaw will break both of those records next season.

Dodgers have $235 million in payroll commitments for next season. This does not include the $26 million posting fee for Ryu. Ryu will likely sign tomorrow and the Dodgers will have the highest payroll in major league history. Some rumors that they will pursue Anibal Sanchez as well.

It's kinda fun to be a Dodger fan again
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:47 PM
 
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This deal's done. The Rangers send Young and $10 million to Philadelphia (Philadelphia will pay $6 million for Young) for a couple of relievers, Josh Lindblom and Lisalverto Bonilla.

Seems like a fair trade for both teams and Young. The Rangers didn't need Young anymore. The Phillies needed a third baseman. And Young is good enough to be a starter and not just a bench guy.

Lindblom is a former Dodger reliever (was traded to Philadelphia for Shane Victorino). He's a back of the bullpen guy. Nothing special. Bonilla is a high-strikeout high-walk minor league reliever. He's got some potential but is definitely not a sure thing.

Based on the chatter in Philly it seems they have ~21 Million left

Hopefully Hamilton, A good mid reliver and maybe a 4th/5th starter we will see

I like Revere for some upside just that he is a lefty and sees only 2.4/5 pitches per at bat
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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Dodger have just a few more minutes to agree to a deal with Ryu. Deadline is 5PM Eastern.
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Old 12-09-2012, 03:28 PM
 
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Dodger have just a few more minutes to agree to a deal with Ryu. Deadline is 5PM Eastern.
Deal is done.

Dodgers will add a decent left-handed pitcher and some more tens of millions of dollars.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:56 PM
 
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The Rays and Royals may also be working on a trade. The Royals may have offered #1 prospect OFer Wil Myers for James Shields. The Royals are desperate for pitching, but this would be a terrible trade for them. Shields is an excellent pitcher producing well over 4 WAR per season over the last 6 seasons. He's also on a friendly contract paying him just $21 million for the next 2 seasons. It's likely Shields will produce something like 9 WAR (4.5 WAR per season) while earning that $21 million. That's a rate of just over $2 million per WAR ($21/9). The market rate $/WAR is somewhere between $5 and $6 million per WAR. Shields is a bargain. The trouble is that the Royals' young players should starting hitting their peaks in the next 1 to 2 seasons, just as Shields would be leaving as a free agent. It doesn't make sense to acquire him now. Also, Myers is an outstanding prospect. He's good enough defensively to play CF for a couple of years, but will likely play either LF or RF where he'd be well above average defensively. Plus he can really hit. He was 116% better than the average AA hitter last year. He's almost guaranteed to be a 2 WAR player and likely more than that. At the league minimum salary he would earn for the next 3 years he's much more valuable than Shields.
A lot of Twitter noise about this deal.

I still hate it for the Royals. Though it now may include Rays' starter Wade Davis as well.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:20 PM
 
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A lot of Twitter noise about this deal.

I still hate it for the Royals. Though it now may include Rays' starter Wade Davis as well.
James Shields, Wade Davis, PTBNL to KC for OF Wil Myers, P Jake Odorizzi, P Mike Montgomery and 3B Dennis Leonard.

Beyond terrible for the Royals.


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You heard it here first:
Expect the Royals to end their suckitude in the next few seasons (if that suckitutde becomes mediocritude or contention(itude?) depends on if Dayton Moore can improve his ability to create a major league roster to 1/10th his ability to evaluate minor league players)
Looks like mediocritude is the Royals' future.


https://twitter.com/robneyer/status/277990252700897280
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this is what happens when you're the Royals and you start talking to a bunch of really, really smart guys about a trade.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:23 PM
 
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Royals Mortgage Future To Be Mediocre In 2013 | FanGraphs Baseball
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Even though their team got worse in the present, Rays fans have to be thrilled with this trade. And even though their club got better in the present, Royals fans should be in mourning, because even after this exchange, the Rays are still the team with a better chance of contending in 2013, and now they’ve cemented a brighter future for themselves as well.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:26 PM
 
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A quick look at this trade from the Rays' perspective.

They'll replace Shields in the rotation with Chris Archer.
Bill James projections have:
Shields pitching 218 innings with a 3.67 ERA = 89 runs
Archer pitching 161 innings with a 3.81 ERA = 68 runs
Add in a terrible pitcher making up the difference between the innings
Terrible pitcher 57 innings with a 5.00 ERA = 32 runs

Archer and the replacement pitcher will give up 100 runs to Shields' 89. A difference of 11 runs.

With the $12 million they save then can sign someone (Youkilis) to play 1B or DH. If he produces 11 runs they come out even.

PLUS they get Myers, who will fill a corner OF spot for the next 6 years. PLUS they get Jake Odorizzi who may crack the rotation.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:29 PM
 
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Most Pirates followers are envious nonetheless. Royals are all in.
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