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Old 03-20-2013, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Good morning, for the fun of it I have been tracking my son's baseball statistics. Even though it is nothing official, I'm just trying to be as accurate as possible. Occasionally there are scenarios that I question the official scoring...here's one.

No outs, runner on second and third, batter hits a slow dribbler down third base line. The ball is fielded 3/4 the way down the third baseline (batter just barely got a hold of the ball and it was slower than a bunt) Once the thirdbaseman fields the ball the runner on third breaks for home. The thirdbaseman overthrows to first so the batter reaches on error. My question is, does the batter get the RBI? Although he reached on error, the run still would have scored even if the play was made at first.

The remainder of the play which I don't think is relevant to the question is that the batter is awarded second because the ball left the field and the runner from second scores. I know the second runner doesn't count because that was a direct result of the error, but I'm curious of the first runner.

Thanks!
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:28 AM
YAZ
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
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Fielder's choice so the RBI counts.

(Runner on third that scored)
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Old 03-20-2013, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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But the third baseman did throw to first. I thought FC to be when the fielder chooses to throw to any base BUT first.
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Old 03-21-2013, 07:40 AM
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Location: Phoenix,AZ
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He gets the RBI regardless.

The best I can come up with re: FC is the "on the throw" scoring.

What I'm thinkin' is this:

The batter would've been thrown out with a clean throw to first. He still gets the RBI. With a tag out at the plate, the batter would've received a FC. He reached first on an error; counts against his average but still gets the RBI because he put the ball in play. Kinda like a sac fly.

Heh.

I'm more than willing to be corrected on this but that's the way I'd score it..........

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Old 03-21-2013, 07:55 AM
YAZ
 
Location: Phoenix,AZ
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OK.

I looked it up.

It's up to the official scorer.

That would be you......

If the official scorer thinks that the runner scored BECAUSE of the error, no RBI awarded.

If the runner would've scored regardless.....it's a RBI.
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Yes, that was my feeling. It's just middle-school ball, but I'm trying to keep his stats but also make sure I'm doing it right. It's purely for fun, but if you're going to do it, might as well do it right.

Thanks! (I'm giving him the ROE/RBI).
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Old 03-23-2013, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Sounds like it was a good play by the 3Bman if he would have made the play but for the error.

Depending, it could have been a single, RBI, advance to 2B on the error.
If the batter really did reach because of the error, then, yes, ROE/RBI.
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