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Old 07-14-2017, 04:31 PM
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Jays need 7 or 8 wins on this 10-game trip in order to lend some credibility to a 2nd-half run. If they don't get them, I can see Estrada and maybe Liriano dealt but I can't see them unloading Donaldson or any of the kids. Yet. Maybe in the off-season.

In the past two years, the Jays have the 2nd-best record in MLB in the 2nd-half of the season. They need to make it three in row to get back into this one.
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Old 07-17-2017, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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Started off well, ended horribly!

Friday: Jays 7 @ Tigers 2. Bautista & Donaldson each had 2 RBI's
Saturday: Jays 1 @ Tigers 11. Tigers scored 5 runs in the first 3 innings as Liriano left in the 3rd with an injury.
Sunday: Jays 5 @ Tigers 6 (11 innings). Smoak & Morales each had homers in the 1st as the Jays went up 3-0. Lucas Harrell would walk Miguel Cabrera with the bases loaded in the 11th for the winning run, ending the Jays to the airport with a sour taste in their mouths.

4 game series in Boston starts on Monday. Eduardo Rodriguez (4-2, 3.54) starts for Boston against Marcus Stroman (9-5, 3.28), J.A. Happ (3-6, 3.54) starts Tuesday against Doug Fister (0-3, 6.75), Aaron Sanchez (1-2, 3.94) starts Wednesday against Drew Pomeranz (9-4, 3.75), and Chris Sale (11-4, 2.79) will start against a fill in TBA for Liriano on Thursday. Monday, Tuesday & Wednesday start at 7:10, and Thursday's game begins at 1:35. Tigers head to KC for a 4 game series against the Royals which begins on Monday.
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Old 07-21-2017, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Northern Wisconsin
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Speaking off starting off horribly, 7express; Blue Jays got whopped by the Indians 13-3. The Indians really swung the bats.
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Old 07-22-2017, 06:40 PM
 
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5-5, which is the best they can do after another poor outing by Estrada and the bullpen, is just not going to cut it this year, even in the incredibly mediocre American League. I'll give them 1 last chance: This upcoming, 7 game home stand against the Angels (who have been surprisingly terrible since getting Trout back this past week) and the second worst in the AL A's. Anything less than 6-1, which will take us to July 30, and you may have to stick the fork in them. You want to make the playoffs?? Beat the A's and Angels! A lot of AL teams have been doing that this year! And unlike the last couple of years, they don't really have much to fall back on this year.

in 2015 they actually had the prospect base available to make the trades for David Price and Tulo which kick started their August & September surge. In 2016, the starting pitching was excellent, one of the best overall in baseball, which kept them in the race in the beginning when the bats were struggling, and then they completely took off when the bats got going in August. Unfortunately, the 2017 version of the Blue Jays doesn't have either. They don't have the talent base in the minors to make an impact trade (and there aren't any real "impact" players in 2017 like there were in 2015, so even if the Jays had the prospects, I don't think it would matter anyways), and the pitching outside Stroman, Osuna and Happ's last few starts has been downright terrible. Estrada fell off the wagon in June and hasn't gotten back on, Biagini was decent. Not good, but not great. Happ before mid June was bad. Stroman has been pretty consistent but has been dinged up. Sanchez is hurt.................AGAIN (just got put back on the DL today), Liriano has been bad most of the year, the bullpen outside of Osuna has been a complete dumpster fire, and the offense really hasn't gotten anything going. When you combine all of that you get a 44-52 team that's only saving grace is that there is only really 1 good team in the league (Houston) and since everyone else falls into either the "Decent", "Average", "semi-average" or "bad" categories which allows this 44-52 team to remain in the wildcard race.
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Old 07-23-2017, 08:04 PM
 
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They split 4 games in Boston, and got swept in Cleveland getting outscored 23-5 getting an absolute break with the Red Sox pushing Sale back a day, and then moving Fister back to fill Sale's turn in the rotation, and calling up a rookie to start on Tuesday instead. They should have won Tuesday but lost deep in the Boston night on Osuna's first blown save of the year and than Hanley Ramirez walk-off homer. Also got walked off in Cleveland on Saturday in extra's after the Jays completely blew it! They tied the game on Smoak's homer in the 8th off of Andrew Miller, and then starting the 10th the first 2 batters reached base on an error and a walk but they could not score, and then Francisco Lindor's homer in the 10th mercifully put an end to that game, and Brantley figuratively ended it early on Sunday: 3 run double in the first, and with Kluber on the mound for the Indians, you could stick a fork in them right now. Probably stick a fork in them for the season. 7-13 through this 20 game stretch which I thought was the most important stretch of the year. Actually take it back a week further: June 22. On that day they were finishing a 4 game series in Texas, had won 2 of the first 3 games, and with a win would have gotten back to .500 (after failing the previous 8 attempts to do so). They lost that game to fall to 2 games under .500, and since they've lost 17 of their next 26, and 5 of 8 series to basically eliminate themselves from playoff contention. They had a stretch from April 28-May 14 when they went 11-4, but aside from that have played like one of the worst teams in the league. They've got 10 games coming up here against bad teams: 4 vs. Oakland, 4 vs. Angels, 3 @ White Sox. I feel like they have to go 9-1 to legitimately give themselves a chance in August & September (They still have 2 series left in Boston [3 overall], a home series vs. the Royals, and series in Minnesota, Houston & Cubs still upcoming) and from what I've seen from this team all year I think they have a better chance to go 4-6 through this upcoming 10 game stretch than 9-1.
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Old 07-24-2017, 08:56 AM
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The Fat Lady has sung. Time to focus on next year. It'll be interesting to see what Shapiro and Atkins do and maybe even more interesting to see what they don't.

A very disappointing season though, from almost every angle.
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Old 07-27-2017, 03:50 PM
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...be vewy, vewy quiet...don't bweak da bubble....*


*Elmer Fudd voice
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Old 07-27-2017, 04:32 PM
 
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Granted, they needed 2 comeback's, but 4 wins is 4 wins. Let's see what happens this weekend...

Monday: A's 2 @ Jays 4. In what is likely Liriano's last start as a Jay (Royals are said to be very interested) he allowed only 2 hits and 2 runs in 5 innings and picked up the win.
Tuesday: A's 1 @ Jays 4. In what is probably Sonny Gray's last start as an A he took the loss giving up 4 runs.....however all 4 runs were unearned because Gray made a fielding error in the 2nd when all 4 runs scored. Even though the Jays didn't score in any other inning, the A's only scored once and that 4 run inning was enough for the win.
Wednesday: A's 2 @ Jays 3. On 2 pitches in the 9th inning Smoak tied the game and Morales sent everyone home happy with a walk off.
Thursday: Another tying homer in the 9th this time from Morales, and than Pearce had a walkoff grand slam to sent the Rogers Centre crowd home happy.

3 game series with the Angels (who are only 7-12 in July and 4-7 since the break) starts on Friday at the Rogers Centre. J.A. Happ (3-7, 4.13) starts on Friday against Parker Bridwell (4-1, 3.09), Francisco Liriano (6-5, 5.99) is currently the scheduled starter for Saturday but obviously that will change if a trade is immanent or official against Yusmeiro Petit (2-0, 2.70) and Jesse Chavez (5-10, 5.35) starts against Cesar Valdez (1-0, 4.97) in the likely season finale in this series Sunday afternoon. Friday's game is at 7:07, while Saturday & Sunday game times are at 1:07
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Old 07-29-2017, 02:05 PM
 
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H!!!!!!!!!!!! Welp, there are those 2 losses I said they could have even though 9-1 was more likely. Frustrating. They have back-to-back walk offs to end the A's series think they are going to make a move and they go backwards and lose the first 2 games of the Angels series. No wonder this team is where they are, they are stuck in neutral.
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Old 07-30-2017, 11:58 PM
 
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Well....luckily it wasn't a whole lot worst as they had 3 walkoffs on the home stand including the finale when they trailed by 6 runs entering the 9th. Time to sell whatever free agents they have at the end of this year (Estrada, Liriano, Joe Smith, Jose Bautista if he accepts the trade), and get back whatever lottery ticket prospect they can and regroup for 2018 and hope they get better production and more importantly better health in 2018.

Friday: Angels 7 @ Jays 2. 3 runs in the 9th when it was still a 4-1 game heading into the inning did it for the Jays
Saturday: Angels 6 @ Jays 5. Troy Scribner pitching in his major league debut snatched victory from the jaws of defeat after 2 ex Jays; Ben Revere and Cliff Pennington for the main producers in the Angels 3 run 9th inning which turned Scribner into a winner.
Sunday: Angels 10 @ Jays 11. Albert Pujols hit 2 home runs for the Halos, but this was about the Jays. Steve Pearce became only the 3rd player in MLB history to hit 2 walk off grand slams in the same season, and the first to do it in the same week.

3 game series in Chicago against the White Sox starts on Monday, and actually the first of 2 trips the Jays will be making to Chicago in August as they'll return to the Windy City later in the month for a series at Wrigley Field. Why they couldn't just play the Cubs over the weekend I'll never know. Marco Estrada (if he isn't traded) (4-7, 5.43) starts for the Jays against James Shields (2-3, 5.86) on Monday, Mike Pelfrey (3-8, 4.73) starts for the White Sox Tuesday against Marcus Stroman (9-5, 3.08), and Derek Holland (5-10, 5.42) starts for the White Sox vs. J.A. Happ (3-8, 4.15) on Wednesday. Monday & Tuesday games begin at 8:10, Wednesday at 2:10. Angels head home to face the Phillies for 3 games beginning on Tuesday.
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