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Old 08-28-2013, 03:04 PM
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The team that's still below the league average despite being in a neck-and-neck division race all season and poised to make the post-season for the first time in decades?

Yeah, those guys.

But at least they're not the Rays whose attendance is dead-last despite fielding a competitive team in the toughest division in the league.
With the Pirates, they were so bad for so long than now, they are just starting to come back from that. Another issue is Pittsburgh's decreasing population. Alot of people have left, so that could be another problem.

With Tampa Bay, I think its a combination of apathy towards the Rays and being located in St. Petersburg instead of Tampa.
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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With the Pirates, they were so bad for so long than now, they are just starting to come back from that. Another issue is Pittsburgh's decreasing population. Alot of people have left, so that could be another problem.

With Tampa Bay, I think its a combination of apathy towards the Rays and being located in St. Petersburg instead of Tampa.
Playing in a barn with rafters so low that they're actually part of the field of play when hit by pop-ups doesn't help with the whole ambiance thing. I also hear the stadium is a right pain in the arse to get to for most area residents. Maybe that's what you were getting at by pointing out they play in St. Pete.
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Old 09-11-2013, 07:03 PM
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Playing in a barn with rafters so low that they're actually part of the field of play when hit by pop-ups doesn't help with the whole ambiance thing. I also hear the stadium is a right pain in the arse to get to for most area residents. Maybe that's what you were getting at by pointing out they play in St. Pete.
The stadium is part of it. It isn't in Tampa, so it's hard for many people to get to. One reason Raymond James stadium should not have been torn down. The Rays could have used it.

However, even when the Rays went to the World Series, and then stayed good afterwards, attendance was poor.
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Old 09-12-2013, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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With the Pirates, they were so bad for so long than now, they are just starting to come back from that. Another issue is Pittsburgh's decreasing population. Alot of people have left, so that could be another problem.
Per the US Census, Metro Pittsburgh's population increased 8% between 2000 and 2010. It is only slightly smaller than its peak in the 1960s.
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Old 09-12-2013, 03:39 PM
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Per the US Census, Metro Pittsburgh's population increased 8% between 2000 and 2010. It is only slightly smaller than its peak in the 1960s.
But population decrease can play a bad part in some things. Think of the years between 1980 and 2000.
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Englewood, Near Eastside Indy
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But population decrease can play a bad part in some things. Think of the years between 1980 and 2000.
What does that have to do with present day? Metro-Pittsburgh is gaining people. That is fact.
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Old 09-13-2013, 07:50 AM
 
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I saw where the Blue Jays are going to play the Mets for 2 exhibition games in late March at Olympic Stadium. People are already snatching up tickets. I see alot of discussion on Facebook in the groups that are part of the movement to get another MLB team in Montreal. Many think that if the Rays can't get a new stadium in the Tampa Bay area, then Montreal can make a legitimate push to move them there and most likely use the Expos name again. I don't see the Rays moving out of the area. I think they will eventually end up in Tampa, which is where they should have been to start with.
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Old 09-13-2013, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Huntington Woods, MI
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Pittsburgh has one of the 3 smallest stadiums in baseball. Of course they will be low in overall attendance. They rank dead middle at 15th in terms of percentage. Now consider they had 20 years of losing and fans weren't eager to come initially.
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Old 09-23-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Currently living in Reddit
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The team that's still below the league average despite being in a neck-and-neck division race all season and poised to make the post-season for the first time in decades?

Yeah, those guys.

But at least they're not the Rays whose attendance is dead-last despite fielding a competitive team in the toughest division in the league.
22 sellouts out of 80 home dates (one true DH in there). 2,256,000. 73.5% capacity, which is right in middle of MLB.

Pittsburgh and Cincy share a problem with no known solution - weeknight attendance when school is open. April, May, September night games always have been an issue, maybe always will be. Hard to say about Cleveland since they're not even selling out on weekends.
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Old 09-23-2013, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The solution is to actually attend when your team is on a tear. Ask St. Louis fans about it if you want to compare to a similar-sized market. They don't make excuses -- they just show up.
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