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View Poll Results: Robinson Cano - Is he (or anyone) worth $300M / 10 Years?
Yes, he is worth it and so are players of his ilk. 2 5.71%
No, baseball players are not worth that much. 33 94.29%
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Old 09-30-2013, 11:00 AM
 
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Cano's numbers are nowhere in the same universe as A-Rod or Pujols, both of whom have had disastrous long-term contracts, yet he expects to make more? He and his agent are morons.
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Old 09-30-2013, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Default When will teams figure out thses big contracts don't work?

I've been following baseball since 2006 (when I was 10/11), and the big contracts these teams sign almost always never end up working out. Here's just some of those since that time that I can think of (that haven't worked out):

Barry Zito - 7 years 126 million
Mark Texiera 8 years 180 million
Alex Rodriguez - 10 years 275 million
Josh Hamilton - 5 years 125 million
Albert Pujols - 10 years 250 million
Joey Votto - 10 years 225 million


And now Robinson Cano wants 305 million. It's just ridiculous. I don't really have any other thoughts on this, just wanted to tell someone how I feel.
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Old 09-30-2013, 04:37 PM
 
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Pedroia just got 100mm/10 years and most thought that was "all the money!"

Hard to justify that kind of coin from a team that paid the most in the league for talent this year and need tickets to see the playoffs!
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Old 10-02-2013, 06:08 PM
 
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Interesting piece today in the news, that this year's playoffs include a number of teams in the bottom half of the spending hierarchy.

High-salary teams not in the post-season are: The Yankees (1st at $236.9M), Philadelphia (4th at $166.2M), the Los Angeles Angels (6th at $143.4M), defending champion San Francisco (7th at $141.3M), Texas (8th at $134.5M), and Toronto (9th at $125.9M).

High-salary teams in the post season are: Dodgers (2nd at $236.8M), Boston (3rd at $174.1M), Detroit (5th at $153.4M), St. Louis (11th at $119.3M) and Cincinnati (13th at $113.3M).

Lower-salary teams in the post-season are: Atlanta (16th at $95.3M), Cleveland (21th at $88.6M), Pittsburgh (26th at $73.6M), Oakland (27th at $71.1M), and Tampa Bay (28th at $65.6M).

Depending on what website I hit, there are big difference in team salaries between those sites. The numbers stated above are from HuffPost via the Assoc Press; depending on whatever site others may visit, it's a case of dueling stats, aka YMMV.

This year, money can't buy happiness for some of the big-spending owners. We'll see if the Dodgers and Boston end up in the Series.
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Old 10-02-2013, 10:43 PM
 
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Originally Posted by American Luxury View Post
I've been following baseball since 2006 (when I was 10/11), and the big contracts these teams sign almost always never end up working out. Here's just some of those since that time that I can think of (that haven't worked out):

Barry Zito - 7 years 126 million
Mark Texiera 8 years 180 million
Alex Rodriguez - 10 years 275 million
Josh Hamilton - 5 years 125 million
Albert Pujols - 10 years 250 million
Joey Votto - 10 years 225 million


And now Robinson Cano wants 305 million. It's just ridiculous. I don't really have any other thoughts on this, just wanted to tell someone how I feel.
Add Matt Kemp to that list. The guy runs to first base and gets injured.
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Old 10-04-2013, 11:48 AM
 
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So, is Cano worth $30M/year?
Short answer: No.

Long answer:

Point 1: Money/salary is relative. Pittsburgh gave Russell Martin an $6.5M salary. That was HUGE for them. The Yankees paying him 7.5M in 2012... chump change. Depends who is paying you.

Point 2: Depends on the position. You can only field 9 players at any one time. You can only slot 9 batters at any one time. The AL has the flexibility to swap out one fielder for one hitter (but let's not get into a DH discussion). Let's take Mike Piazza as an example. Average defense. Phenomenal hitting. Many players fit that bill. But... at catcher? While the other 29 teams (slight exaggeration) penciled in their .230/10HR catchers to bat 8th, the Dodgers could play Piazza. That guy could ask for a lot more compensation given his position.

What I'm trying to say is that a great hitter with average defense in a position not best known for great hitting has a LOT of value. However, while Cano MAY be the best hitting 2B in the game today, he isn't an aberration. 2B isn't exactly devoid of good hitters. His numbers don't put him head and shoulders (and 20M/year) above Dustin Pedroia. Whoever signs him will have to pay a premium, but 30M is off the scale.
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Old 10-07-2013, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Cano and Joe Girardi will be wearing Cubs uniforms next season... BOOK IT!
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:18 AM
 
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Cano and Joe Girardi will be wearing Cubs uniforms next season... BOOK IT!
I think Girardi just resigned for 5 more years......
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Old 10-17-2013, 01:11 PM
 
Location: California
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With the exception of the Dodgers who do not seem to care how much they spend on anyone, I cannot imagine any team signing Cano to the contract he says that he wants. We are presently awash in examples of the calamity which follows signing guys who are 30 or older to lengthy contracts. The Giants will finally be getting out from under the 7 year, 120 million dollar contract they gave to Barry Zito so that Giant fans could enjoy his decline. I suspect the Angels are pretty unhappy with the thought of paying Albert Pujols 25 million a year for the next nine years as he plays less and performs worse each season, nor can they be doing cartwheels over their five year deal with Josh Hamilton. And of course we have the Arod deal as the prime example of how wishful thinking can backfire on a club.

Anyone signing Cano to a contract longer than five years is going to be paying him for what he did as a Yankee, not what he will be doing for them. It isn't that Cano would not be huge asset to whichever team he winds up with, it is that he cannot be a cost effective asset.
Not even the Dodgers with their deep pockets will pay him what he wants. I can see a 5 year contract at 25 mil a year, but that is it. I am not sure if there has ever been a 10 year mega contract that benefited the team.
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:08 AM
 
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More money madness reported today, from the SF Giants

- Tim Lincecum getting $35M for 2 years. He got $22M in 2013. Lincecum went 10-14 with a 4.37 ERA and 193 strikeouts in 32 starts in the 2013 season. That's $2.2M per victory, or $687,500 per start. Good grief.

- Hunter Pence getting $90M for 5 years, or $18M per year.
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