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Old 10-12-2013, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Even though the Phillies were one of the worst teams in the league, they were still ranked in the top 10 for attendance in the entire MLB. So much for the haters calling us bandwagon fans. lol. Philly sports fans are always loyal to their teams.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:13 AM
 
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Interesting numbers, but only counts for the numbers of tickets sold. I wonder how the actual ballpark attendance numbers correlate.
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Old 10-25-2013, 11:27 AM
 
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Another surprise is Oakland. For having such a good team, they rank #23 in attendance. Kansas City, well, yes and no. They've been so bad for so long that their attendance has dropped alot. However, Kansas City was a contender this year, so in some ways, it can be surprising why their attendance has been quite low.
They also have a gorgeous ballpark and relatively cheaper tix.

The problem with KC IMO is that they've been blowing smoke up peoples butt here for years and years and years about how their "young players" were up and coming blah blah blah. Then their contract would come up and wooooosh they'd be off to somewhere else.

I think some of the fans are sick of watching the playoffs over the years and seeing their former team favs in White Sox, Yankees etc. uniforms.

The fans I work with have a lot less optimism and a lot more apathy.
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:23 PM
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They also have a gorgeous ballpark and relatively cheaper tix.

The problem with KC IMO is that they've been blowing smoke up peoples butt here for years and years and years about how their "young players" were up and coming blah blah blah. Then their contract would come up and wooooosh they'd be off to somewhere else.

I think some of the fans are sick of watching the playoffs over the years and seeing their former team favs in White Sox, Yankees etc. uniforms.

The fans I work with have a lot less optimism and a lot more apathy.
I could relate. I'm a Mariners fan, and over the last 10 years, I haven't much good happening. Ichiro went to the Yankees. The M's have had only 2 winning seasons over the last 10 seasons, the last playoff appearance was 2001. 2 major bright spots included the "Mojo" of 2007, which unfortunately, didn't translate to a playoff appearance, and then the return of Ken Griffey Jr in 2009, and the M's last winning season that year. Since then, Griffey has retired, Ichiro went to New York, and pretty much, nothing good. Understandable why the M's attendance has sunk over the last few years.

I'm not apathetic about the Mariners. I'm actually frustrated and angry.
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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These lfigures are meaningless, absent a definition of "attendance". As far as I know, MLB refused to define it, or if they do, I have not heard about it.

Is it:
A - number of tickets sold
B - number ot tickets sold plus distributed free
C - number of people passing through the turnstiles.
D - number of people passing through the turnstiles with paid tickets.
E - an arbitrary number the team can arrive at however they choose
F - some other calculation
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Mequon, WI
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These figures are meaningless, absent a definition of "attendance". As far as I know, MLB refused to define it, or if they do, I have not heard about it.

Is it:
A - number of tickets sold
B - number of tickets sold plus distributed free
C - number of people passing through the turnstiles.
D - number of people passing through the turnstiles with paid tickets.
E - an arbitrary number the team can arrive at however they choose
F - some other calculation
I agree however these are the only quantifiable numbers we have and we will never get the complete accurate numbers from each club. Now I know some clubs say tickets sold on the pa system and some do announce through the turnstiles. In Milwaukee they announce "paid attendance".
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Old 10-28-2013, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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AT&T Park in San Francisco gives fans an amazing experience and once you visit you can see why we are over 99% capacity. The garlic fries are legendary. We are by the bay. The views and angles toward the field are engineered meticulously. And oh, we field a pretty good team most years. World Series champions 2010 and 2012!

Baseball is not king in the Bay Area though. Look at the attendance figures for Oakland across the bay. A lot of people go to the ballpark to "hang out with friends".
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:42 PM
 
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Tampa would draw far better if they did not play in a dark, dank canyon of a dome. They are dying for a modern retractable dome (or open air) facility there.I do not think Miami will ever draw regularly. Too hard to regularly get to the games due to traffic issues.Pittsburgh ranked 19th but I think that will go up next year. They were down for SO long, that it took a while for fans to really get on board with them. Once they realized they were for real, fans showed up. Pittsburgh is a terrific baseball town, and has the best of the "new" stadiums IMO.Cubs fans are loyal, but attendance is WAY down from their "high." Even the Cubs faithful can only take so much... and near 100 loss seasons combined with the highest prices in the league will start to have downward pressure.
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Old 11-02-2013, 06:25 PM
 
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AT&T Park in San Francisco gives fans an amazing experience and once you visit you can see why we are over 99% capacity. The garlic fries are legendary. We are by the bay. The views and angles toward the field are engineered meticulously. And oh, we field a pretty good team most years. World Series champions 2010 and 2012!

Baseball is not king in the Bay Area though. Look at the attendance figures for Oakland across the bay. A lot of people go to the ballpark to "hang out with friends".
Tell me about it! I've been to Oakland Colisseum and it's a dump. The players' dugout is in the sewage. The seats are hardly comfortable and the sun is waayyy too hot beaming down on you. The only food is cardboard tasting pizza, hotdogs, mini-sandwiches for exorbitant prices. If you love seeing the A's, then as a fan, staying at home and watching it on tv is how most people would rather watch it including me. Also, Oakland's fans are lower on the socio-economic scale so I assume most of them really can't afford going to the game most of the time. Such a pity when the A's are a good team to watch.

There are 2 teams in the San Francisco Bay area, so where would most people rather go?? dumpy Oakland Colisseum or bright and shiny, built to counter windchills, supercomfortable and great view and the best food- Giants stadium?
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Old 11-06-2013, 11:00 AM
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Tell me about it! I've been to Oakland Colisseum and it's a dump. The players' dugout is in the sewage. The seats are hardly comfortable and the sun is waayyy too hot beaming down on you. The only food is cardboard tasting pizza, hotdogs, mini-sandwiches for exorbitant prices. If you love seeing the A's, then as a fan, staying at home and watching it on tv is how most people would rather watch it including me. Also, Oakland's fans are lower on the socio-economic scale so I assume most of them really can't afford going to the game most of the time. Such a pity when the A's are a good team to watch.

There are 2 teams in the San Francisco Bay area, so where would most people rather go?? dumpy Oakland Colisseum or bright and shiny, built to counter windchills, supercomfortable and great view and the best food- Giants stadium?
Funny you mention lower-income people. I live in the Atlanta area. There are many low-income people there. However, you tend to see middle class to upper class people at the games. I would imagine with Oakland, that it represents the East Bay region and there are probably fans coming from other parts of the East Bay, such as Alameda, Berkeley, San Leandro,Fremont, Walnut Creek, and Livermore. Atlanta area gets fans from places like Lawrenceville, Duluth, Marietta, Smyrna, Snellville, Kennesaw, Acworth, Woodstock, and other suburbs. Never underestimate the power of suburban fans.

I think the difference between Oakland and San Francisco goes all the way back to the old days. San Francisco was considered the "darling child of bay" while Oakland was known as a poor, unknown area across the bay. I think Oakland having such a problem with its stadium and San Francisco getting a new stadium might reflect the socio-economic differences as well as highlighting a slight rivalry of sorts.
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