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Old 12-15-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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Beltran in 795 games as a Royal compiled 24.6 WAR, or 4.1 WAR per season. As a Met he was in 839 games and compiled 31.1 WAR or 4.5 WAR per season. He was an All Star in four those Met seasons and a top 25 MVP award finisher three times.

His main problem wasn't the quality of his play, it was his poor luck with health which kept him out of the lineup, especially the last two years with NY.
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Old 12-16-2013, 10:05 AM
 
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Mets fans just can't get over that Beltran didn't swing at a pitch that no one could hit.
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Old 12-16-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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Default Cardinals to add 2B Mark Ellis

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eteran free-agent second baseman Mark Ellis and the St. Louis Cardinals have come to an agreement in principal on a one-year contract pending a physical, sources have told ESPN.

Ellis, an 11-year MLB veteran, batted .264 over his last two seasons with the Los Angeles Dodgers and has been was one of the steadiest fielders in the major leagues.
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Ellis will give the Cardinals a reliable glove. He is listed as a plus-12 in Baseball Info Solutions' runs-saved rankings. Boston's Dustin Dustin Pedroia, with a plus-15, was the only second baseman to finish with a higher ranking
2B Mark Ellis to sign with St. Louis Cardinals - ESPN

So who will be the Dodgers starting secondbaseman in 2014?
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:23 PM
 
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2B Mark Ellis to sign with St. Louis Cardinals - ESPN

So who will be the Dodgers starting secondbaseman in 2014?
The Cuban signee, Guerrero. Beyond Gordon, they have no backup infielders. They lost Ellis to St. Louis, Punto to Oakland, and Hairston to the broadcasting booth. Adam Kennedy wants to play again. Perhaps they sign him.
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Old 12-16-2013, 02:01 PM
 
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The Cuban signee, Guerrero. Beyond Gordon, they have no backup infielders. They lost Ellis to St. Louis, Punto to Oakland, and Hairston to the broadcasting booth. Adam Kennedy wants to play again. Perhaps they sign him.
Maybe they could reel Uribe back into the fold. He did give them one decent year for his three year money.
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Old 12-16-2013, 10:28 PM
 
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Maybe they could reel Uribe back into the fold. He did give them one decent year for his three year money.
The Dodgers did just agree to terms with Uribe a couple days. He wanted three years; Dodgers wanted just one, but gave him two because Miami wanted him as well.
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:30 PM
 
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Default Source: Yanks, Brian Roberts agree

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Free-agent second baseman Brian Roberts has reached an agreement on a one-year contract with the New York Yankees, a baseball source confirmed to ESPN.com.

The deal is worth $2 million and includes incentives, a source told ESPNNewYork.com.

Roberts, 36, has spent his entire 13-year career with the Baltimore Orioles. He is a two-time All-Star with a .349 career on-base percentage, 278 stolen bases and three seasons of 50 or more doubles. But he's been plagued by injuries and hasn't appeared in more than 77 games since 2009.
Brian Roberts has deal with New York Yankees - ESPN New York

The Yankees need someone to play secondbase, but this doesn't look like a very good solution. The team is already awash in older players who are having trouble staying in the lineup and now they have another. In the last four seasons, the now 36 year old Roberts has played in 59, 39, 17 and 77 games. Roberts recorded 0.7 WAR in 2013 and he will replacing someone who racked up 7.O WAR.

Say...didn't Soriano start out as a secondbaseman?

Of course it isn't like there was anything worthwhile still left among free agents, the only three unsigned secondbaseman are Alexi Cassilla, Chris Getz and Ramon Santiago. Miguel Tejada is listed as a free agent secondbaseman, but.......

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Old 12-18-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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Great?

2005 28 NYM NL 151 650 582 83 155 34 2 16 78 17 6 56 96 .266 .330 .414 .744 97 241 9 2 4 6 5 *8 AS

2006 29 NYM NL 140 617 510 127 140 38 1 41 116 18 3 95 99 .275 .388 .594 .982 150 303 6 4 1 7 6 *8/D AS,MVP-4,GG,SS

2007 30 NYM NL 144 636 554 93 153 33 3 33 112 23 2 69 111 .276 .353 .525 .878 125 291 8 2 1 10 10 *8 AS,MVP-20,GG,SS

2008 31 NYM NL 161 706 606 116 172 40 5 27 112 25 3 92 96 .284 .376 .500 .876 130 303 11 1 1 6 13 *8/D MVP-21,GG

2009 32 NYM NL 81 357 308 50 100 22 1 10 48 11 1 47 43 .325 .415 .500 .915 144 154 9 1 0 1 10 8/D AS

2010 33 NYM NL 64 255 220 21 56 11 3 7 27 3 1 30 39 .255 .341 .427 .768 109 94 4 1 0 4 5 8

2011 34 NYM NL 98 419 353 61 102 30 2 15 66 3 0 60 61 .289 .391 .513 .904 151 181 9 2 0 4 6 9/D
275 41 116 130 runs, 276 33 112 93 runs, 284 27 112 116 runs, 300 22 84 78 runs. And at the time the best defensive centerfielder in baseball. With Jacoby Ellsbury a clearly inferior player gets 20 million, Choo looking for the same(all the same while being an awful defensive player). Beltran deserved every penny the mets paid him. Even though he has hurt quite a bit.
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Old 12-19-2013, 12:24 AM
 
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Ellsbury is clearly inferior to Beltran?
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Old 12-19-2013, 07:46 AM
 
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Ellsbury is clearly inferior to Beltran?
He was clearly inferior when Beltran was in his prime. Sorry I wasn't clear.
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