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Old 12-06-2013, 11:41 PM
 
Location: NYntarctica
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This is a waste of money. Cano is very streaky, his fielding sucks and he is also not a clutch player. I am glad the Yankees "low-balled" him.
His fielding has been top-notch every year since 2010, except the first half of 2011. He makes amazing plays all the time. He is streaky, but chamo, when he is on a streak, Cano is the most exciting player in the world to watch imo. I still remember June 2012. It seems like Cano had a homerun every other game that June. I remember how in a series against the Mets, he hit a mammoth home run onto the Shea Bridge, and then two games later, he hit a monstrous homerun over the apple in center field. And then later that year he became the second player (first Yankee) to hit the center field restaurant at Yankee Stadium. His power is top notch. He also has underrated speed, 7 triples in 2011! He also hit at least .300 in 7 of the 9 years in the majors. The Mariners are still retarded for giving 240 million, because as great of a player as Cano is, he is not as good as A-Rod or even Pujols were at the time of their contracts
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Old 12-07-2013, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Mariners are going to have some serious buyers remorse in a few years. What makes it worse is that with the money deferred, it's going to hurt their future flexibility. I doubt they have enough pieces to make a splash in the next 2-3 years so can they really build around this guy with him aging and costing them more and more later down the line?

Only deal I can think of worse is the deal the Giants gave to Barry Zito years ago.
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Old 12-07-2013, 09:21 AM
 
Location: NY
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I cannot believe the Mariners gave Cano this kind of contract. He is a valuable player, no doubt, but this makes him very overpaid, and the length of the contract is ludicrous. Ask the Cubs or Angels how those contracts work out for you with 30+ ballplayers (Soriano, Pujhols).
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Old 12-07-2013, 02:04 PM
 
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This is a waste of money. Cano is very streaky, his fielding sucks and he is also not a clutch player. I am glad the Yankees "low-balled" him.
Cano is a multiple time gold glove winner.
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Old 12-07-2013, 05:35 PM
 
Location: Waiting for a streetcar
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The Mariners last big bucks purchase of a secondbaseman was Chone Figgins. Cano shouldn't be that bad.
Four years and $36 million. A little short of comparable. And he was a 3B as a free agent. The M's moved him to 2B.
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Old 12-07-2013, 05:43 PM
 
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I think they overpaid greatly for Cano, and Safeco is known for their long fences..let's see how many home runs he hits in that spacious outfield..and his prime is only another few years, then will be on the decline..
Well, Yankee Stadium is a bandbox, so almost anywhere would be worse. It's LF and CF that were a little on the lengthy side at Safeco, but those fences were moved in by 4-12 feet prior to last season.
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Old 12-07-2013, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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Four years and $36 million. A little short of comparable. And he was a 3B as a free agent. The M's moved him to 2B.
They can be compared. For his 36 million dollars Figgins posted WARs of 1.2, -0.1, -1.1, and I guess we give him zero for the 4th year of the contract where the Mariners had released him and he didn't play. That adds up to exactly 0.0 WAR in exchange for 36 million clams.

Cano will have been paid 36 million dollars by early June of 2015, so if by then he has amassed even a single percentage point of positive WAR, he will have been a better bargain than Figgins.
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Old 12-07-2013, 08:28 PM
 
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They can be compared. For his 36 million dollars Figgins posted WARs of 1.2, -0.1, -1.1, and I guess we give him zero for the 4th year of the contract where the Mariners had released him and he didn't play. That adds up to exactly 0.0 WAR in exchange for 36 million clams. Cano will have been paid 36 million dollars by early June of 2015, so if by then he has amassed even a single percentage point of positive WAR, he will have been a better bargain than Figgins.
The point was not that Figgins wasn't a bust in Seattle. He clearly was. After all, he was an All Star 3B who had just led the league in SB when he signed, but that's not how he played. Still, 4 years and $36 million for 3B Figgins prior to 2010 is not really comparable to 10 years and $240 million for 2B Cano prior to 2014.

And Cano's AVG by month last year...
.327 -- .257 -- .275 -- .315 -- .370 -- .340
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Old 12-08-2013, 07:16 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Yankees have been doing unto others for years. About time people started doing unto them. Do you think the Yanks will have the first overall draft pick in 2015?
Are you nuts? The Yankees will be contenders next year. All we need to do is add another pitcher and possibly trade for an infielder to be set.
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Old 12-08-2013, 11:39 AM
 
Location: NYntarctica
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First overall draft pick? Are you insane? This is a team that had 85 wins despite the fact that every single player in the lineup except for Cano spent time on the DL list. It's gonna be really hard to fall all the way to the bottom of the league. Even the 2009 Mets didn't get the first overall draft pick, and the 2009 Mets were beyond atrocious. Worst case scenario I would think is a 78-84 record.
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