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Old 02-07-2014, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC area
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Look at these odds for World Series 2014, I'm thinking of playing a couple of teams, the Rangers and Braves. Great odds

http:Baseball_Futures_To_Win_The_World_Series_2014 _Bovada_Sportsbook
It's been a while since KC has been that high up.
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Mequon, WI
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Oh wait the Brewers just signed K-Rod for the 3rd time! I change my prediction to The Milwaukee Brewers!
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Old 02-08-2014, 10:23 AM
 
Location: The City
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Howard hits 78 HRs - Hamels wins Cy Young

Phils over the Dodgers in the NLCS (becaue basically we only win the series in these instances)

Phils over the Rangers (Eagles over Cowboys too)

One can dream anyway

After this winter am just excited for pitcher and catcher to report...
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Old 02-09-2014, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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The Red Sox odds are way too low coming off the World Series hype. Clutch HBP's will only carry them so far.
Huh? The Red Sox have one thing that is very valuable, as the Tampa Bay Rays have shown us...pitching, and plenty of it. The Sox are stocked with both young and veteran starters and have huge depth in their rotation this season. Add to that a bullpen that is one of the deepest in MLB, and they are certainly in a neck and neck race with Tampa for the AL East.

As far as the Sox losing Ellsbury...is it a loss when he's not on the field? Yes, his base stealing will be missed. They have no substitute for his leadoff threat. In the field, Jack Bradley Jr is a more than adequate replacement, and some would even say an upgrade. With Sizemore as depth and competition for Bradley, the Sox will be fine in CF. They have incredible depth in LF and RF with Nava, Gomes, Victorino, and Carp.

The Sox infield is pretty well set too, with Napoli finishing last year not only as a great offensive threat, but as one of the top 3 defensive 1B in MLB, a surprise to many. Pedroia is Pedroia. On the left side of the infield, if Middlebrooks stays with the Sox and can reclaim some of his power and plate discipline, he can be a true right handed threat a la Youkilis. If Bogaerts plays SS, then he is a wildcard. His defense is evolving but most agree he is a good defensive SS. As he showed in the postseason, he has excellent plate discipline for a rookie. If the Sox do sign Drew, which I think is less likely as the days pass, he could either backup Bogaerts as depth off the bench, or take the everyday SS role and Bogaerts could move to 3B. Then it would be likely that Middlebrooks could get dealt.

As for catching, David Ross is still around and AJ has as much offensively as Salty without the defensive liability. Salty couldn't throw out a runner if they gave him a head start. Any replacement for Salty is probably a defensive upgrade.

My overall point is that the Sox are in a great position to win, if only due to their incredible depth at starting pitching. Only the Rays can come close. The Yankee spent a crap load of money and will still end up #3 or #4 in the division. They do not have enough starting pitching or bullpen arms, and they have way too many wildcards with Jeter, Tex, and at 2B. They have no depth in their farm system at all, so any help has to come via free agency or cash dump trades like they made for Soriano. The Yankees are at least a year away from any kind of serious run.
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Old 02-13-2014, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Trumbull/Danbury
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Nationals at 12/1 and Royals at 33/1 are the best odds.

Royals may not win the Central, but they should be in contention for a wildcard spot the whole season. Last season was a fluke for the Nats, they'll be back in the playoffs this season.
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Old 02-13-2014, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Cook County
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WhiteSox over Nationals.
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:19 AM
 
Location: Amherst
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Huh? The Red Sox have one thing that is very valuable, as the Tampa Bay Rays have shown us...pitching, and plenty of it. The Sox are stocked with both young and veteran starters and have huge depth in their rotation this season. Add to that a bullpen that is one of the deepest in MLB, and they are certainly in a neck and neck race with Tampa for the AL East.

As far as the Sox losing Ellsbury...is it a loss when he's not on the field? Yes, his base stealing will be missed. They have no substitute for his leadoff threat. In the field, Jack Bradley Jr is a more than adequate replacement, and some would even say an upgrade. With Sizemore as depth and competition for Bradley, the Sox will be fine in CF. They have incredible depth in LF and RF with Nava, Gomes, Victorino, and Carp.

The Sox infield is pretty well set too, with Napoli finishing last year not only as a great offensive threat, but as one of the top 3 defensive 1B in MLB, a surprise to many. Pedroia is Pedroia. On the left side of the infield, if Middlebrooks stays with the Sox and can reclaim some of his power and plate discipline, he can be a true right handed threat a la Youkilis. If Bogaerts plays SS, then he is a wildcard. His defense is evolving but most agree he is a good defensive SS. As he showed in the postseason, he has excellent plate discipline for a rookie. If the Sox do sign Drew, which I think is less likely as the days pass, he could either backup Bogaerts as depth off the bench, or take the everyday SS role and Bogaerts could move to 3B. Then it would be likely that Middlebrooks could get dealt.
Red Sox fan's need to come to terms with a few things:

Uehara's 1.09 ERA over 74 innings can not possibly be repeated.

Victorino can't get HBP'd 18 more times in a season without being injured.

Napoli is staring down the barrel of a 200 K season.

I would not bet on Ortiz staying healthy all year.

Middlebrooks has as much chance of playing for Pawtucket this year as he does reclaiming his power and plate discipline.

Sizemore and Bradley Jr combined as the 1 and 1A spots in the lineup don't equal Ellsbury in the 1 spot.

Drew's defense will absulutely be missed.


Lastly, put me down as predicting that Pedroia will break a bone by mid-season diving at something that he shouldn't....like first base.
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Old 02-15-2014, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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Red Sox fan's need to come to terms with a few things:

Uehara's 1.09 ERA over 74 innings can not possibly be repeated.

Victorino can't get HBP'd 18 more times in a season without being injured.

Napoli is staring down the barrel of a 200 K season.

I would not bet on Ortiz staying healthy all year.

Middlebrooks has as much chance of playing for Pawtucket this year as he does reclaiming his power and plate discipline.

Sizemore and Bradley Jr combined as the 1 and 1A spots in the lineup don't equal Ellsbury in the 1 spot.

Drew's defense will absulutely be missed.


Lastly, put me down as predicting that Pedroia will break a bone by mid-season diving at something that he shouldn't....like first base.
You obviously don't follow the Red Sox or their hot stove moves closely. You should keep in mind the following:

They picked up Mujica as backup for Uehara. They have additional depth with Tazawa, Badenhop, and others. Unlike the Yankees, the Sox have a stocked farm system. Uehara was the 4th choice for closer last year, after Hanrahan, Bailey, and Tazawa.

Napoli was a SO king last year too. He strikes out a lot, but he also hits the game winning HR or extra base hit...a lot. He also grinds out at bats and make pitchers work up their pitch count. Despite 187 SO's in 2013, he had 73 BB's and his stats were .259 .360 .482 .842 (AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS). You wouldn't want his 23 HR's and 92 RBIs? He had an OPS+ of 129. His defense also ranked at the TOP of the AL.

[Drew could still be back, but it's looking like probably not. He had a $14.1 million qualifying offer and chose to go the Boras route instead and now will probably be lucky to get a 1 year deal for a fraction of that amount. Good luck to him. He was a valuable part of the 2013 team. Having said that, most who have scouted him say Bogaerts can be every bit the defensive player that Drew is, and more importantly, he can be a much better offensive player. Only time will tell.

Middlebrooks may end up playing in another uniform this season, whether in Pawtucket or another franchise, but if you followed the Sox last season, Middlebrooks wasn't on the field for the Sox through much of the year or the post-season. A bunch of utility guys and later Bogaerts filled in at 3B and did pretty well. A lot will depend on what Drew ends up doing and how things go with both Bogaerts and Middlebrooks during the spring. The Sox also have a top prospect on the way who is supposed to be both an offensive threat and a defensive wiz at 3B in Garin Cecchini, along with Synder and other utility guys. Middlebrooks could be trade bait and net some depth in the bullpen or some great prospects.

I agree that no one knows exactly what CF will look like this year. Bradley has the tools. The question is whether or not he can put them together. Don't overlook both LF and RF where gold glove and offensive threat Victorino continues to play at a high level and can back up in CF. Nava was near the top of the AL in most offensive categories last year, although he's often overlooked because he's not a flashy player. The depth in the OF could easily cover for injury or poor performance. I bet the Yankees are holding their breath that their $153 million dollar man stays on the field. I guess they back to Gardner or Ichiro if not.

As for Pedroia or other getting injured...could happen, but remember, Pedy tore a ligament in his thumb early in the season in 2013 and played the entire season with it, and won a gold glove. He is far less likely to go down with an injury than Texiera or Jeter.

As for Ortiz...people have been writing his obituary for about 5 years now. They've been talking about his "decline" etc. If he does get injured, the Sox have depth. Maybe no one who can take over and produce the same as Ortiz, but they can keep the DH spot productive.

I will say this...perhaps the Sox will fall short of another World Series win, but the Yankees definitely will not get close to the World Series. They will be lucky to make a wildcard berth. Remember you heard it here...and most sports writers feel the exact same way.
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Old 02-15-2014, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Howard hits 78 HRs - Hamels wins Cy Young

Phils over the Dodgers in the NLCS (becaue basically we only win the series in these instances)

Phils over the Rangers (Eagles over Cowboys too)

One can dream anyway

After this winter am just excited for pitcher and catcher to report...
You should be happy if Howard plays in at least 78 games.
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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You obviously don't follow the Red Sox or their hot stove moves closely. You should keep in mind the following:

They picked up Mujica as backup for Uehara. They have additional depth with Tazawa, Badenhop, and others. Unlike the Yankees, the Sox have a stocked farm system. Uehara was the 4th choice for closer last year, after Hanrahan, Bailey, and Tazawa.

Napoli was a SO king last year too. He strikes out a lot, but he also hits the game winning HR or extra base hit...a lot. He also grinds out at bats and make pitchers work up their pitch count. Despite 187 SO's in 2013, he had 73 BB's and his stats were .259 .360 .482 .842 (AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS). You wouldn't want his 23 HR's and 92 RBIs? He had an OPS+ of 129. His defense also ranked at the TOP of the AL.

[Drew could still be back, but it's looking like probably not. He had a $14.1 million qualifying offer and chose to go the Boras route instead and now will probably be lucky to get a 1 year deal for a fraction of that amount. Good luck to him. He was a valuable part of the 2013 team. Having said that, most who have scouted him say Bogaerts can be every bit the defensive player that Drew is, and more importantly, he can be a much better offensive player. Only time will tell.

Middlebrooks may end up playing in another uniform this season, whether in Pawtucket or another franchise, but if you followed the Sox last season, Middlebrooks wasn't on the field for the Sox through much of the year or the post-season. A bunch of utility guys and later Bogaerts filled in at 3B and did pretty well. A lot will depend on what Drew ends up doing and how things go with both Bogaerts and Middlebrooks during the spring. The Sox also have a top prospect on the way who is supposed to be both an offensive threat and a defensive wiz at 3B in Garin Cecchini, along with Synder and other utility guys. Middlebrooks could be trade bait and net some depth in the bullpen or some great prospects.

I agree that no one knows exactly what CF will look like this year. Bradley has the tools. The question is whether or not he can put them together. Don't overlook both LF and RF where gold glove and offensive threat Victorino continues to play at a high level and can back up in CF. Nava was near the top of the AL in most offensive categories last year, although he's often overlooked because he's not a flashy player. The depth in the OF could easily cover for injury or poor performance. I bet the Yankees are holding their breath that their $153 million dollar man stays on the field. I guess they back to Gardner or Ichiro if not.

As for Pedroia or other getting injured...could happen, but remember, Pedy tore a ligament in his thumb early in the season in 2013 and played the entire season with it, and won a gold glove. He is far less likely to go down with an injury than Texiera or Jeter.

As for Ortiz...people have been writing his obituary for about 5 years now. They've been talking about his "decline" etc. If he does get injured, the Sox have depth. Maybe no one who can take over and produce the same as Ortiz, but they can keep the DH spot productive.

I will say this...perhaps the Sox will fall short of another World Series win, but the Yankees definitely will not get close to the World Series. They will be lucky to make a wildcard berth. Remember you heard it here...and most sports writers feel the exact same way.
I agree that the person that you quoted might just be showing their dislike for the sox but here's my opinion. A farm system is a great thing and the Sox might be stocked but that means nothing now. Everyone knows that depth can be acquired anytime especially for large market teams like the Sox or Yankees. Pedroia is 'JUST As LIKELY' to get injured as Jeter or Texeira. Expect Tex to DH a little more this year and Jeter also DH-ing here and there. I don't see Ortiz as a big injury candidate considering that most of his time will be solely at the plate with very few appearances in the field. Truthfully, I give Boston a good chance of being a playoff contender or maybe even winning it all but I think the Yankees stand a good chance as well. Right now the starting staff is Sabathia, Kuroda, Tanaka, Nova, and Pineda (most likely) with Robertson probably being inserted as the closer unless they pick up an established one. now tell me who has a better top 5 starting staff? If Pineda is healthy, there isn't a better staff in baseball. The Yankees outfield is solid, the only question mark is what will happen with second and third base? Someone might still come in but for now it looks like Roberts and Johnson, so I expect more of a running/bunting game than in the last few years. I'd expect them to trade for a big name for one of those positions by the all star break if they are contending unless the old Roberts emerges. Either way I do see both teams being in the playoffs.
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