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Old 08-29-2009, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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Statistics don't support your claim.

Actually, the Phillies have 183 HRs, of which 92 were hit at home, and 91 hit on the road. Interestingly, they have 249 doubles, and of these 124 were hit at home, and 125 on the road.

Looks like about even to me.


2009 Philadelphia Phillies Batting Splits - Baseball-Reference.com

Citizens Bank Park last year gave up an average of 2.3 HR per game, 7th in MLB, behind US Cellular (2.9), Great American Ball Park (2.7), Camden Yards and Comerica Park (2.6), Rangers Ballpark (2.5), and Minute Maid Park (2.4)...all, except for Comerica which has apparently changed since they moved in the fences, are known hitters parks in which a decent sized little leaguer could no doubt yank a few.

You can't tell me that the Phillie players offensive numbers are not enhanced by playing in such a HR friendly park.

http://www.efastball.com/baseball/st...home-runs-day/
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Old 08-29-2009, 03:32 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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Pitching is always difficult to overcome in a short series, and the Giants have a great short rotation. The problem though, is that they often have difficulty scoring three or more runs a game. With Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels, the Phils may be able to match up with Lincecum and Cain.
Cole Hamels is BOOTYn this year. He is number 3 in the rotation behind Lee and Happ
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Old 08-29-2009, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD/Washington DC
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The Phillies would be one of leading teams in runs scored in the NL regardless what park they played in.

I love how people overlook the semi-obvious, as was the case in the first post of this thread. The Phillies could ALSO play the Dodgers in the NLDS if A) the Dodgers win the NL West, the wild-card winner is from the NL West, and the Phillies have a worse record than the Cardinals, who are only one game behind the Phils in the standings through the games on 8/28 or B) the Rockies or Giants catch the Dodgers in the NL West and the Phillies finish with a better record than the Cardinals (in which case the Phillies would have the #1 seed or #2 seed behind the NL West champ and would play the wild-card winner, assuming it is an NL West team). Both of the scenarios are still very much in play right now, considering how well St. Louis has played in recent weeks and the fact Colorado and to a lesser degree San Francisco aren't that far behind the Dodgers (and Phillies) in the standings.
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Old 08-29-2009, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Silver Spring, MD/Washington DC
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Did you also notice they started winning when they moved into CBP? Before CBP they were not in the playoffs


Phillies in 2001: went 86-76
Phillies in 2003: went 86-76 (last year of the Vet)
Phillies in 2004: went 86-76 (first year of CBP)
Phillies in 2005: went 88-74
Phillies in 2006: went 85-77

The Phillies had essentially the same record for 4 straight years and 5 years out of 6. Two of the seasons they played at the Vet and three of the seasons they played at CBP. They didn't make the playoffs in ANY of those seasons.
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Old 08-29-2009, 03:39 PM
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The Phillies would be one of leading teams in runs scored in NL regardless what park they played in.

I love how people overlook the semi-obvious, as was the case in the first post of this thread. The Phillies could ALSO play the Dodgers in the NLDS if A) the Dodgers win the NL West and the Phillies have a worse record than the Cardinals, who are only one game behind the Phils in the standings through the games on 8/28 or B) the Rockies or Giants catch the Dodgers in the NL West and the Phillies finish with a better record than the Cardinals (in which case the Phillies would have the #1 seed or #2 seed behind the NL West champ and would play the wild-card winner, assuming it is an NL West team). Both of the scenarios are still very much in play right now, considering how well St. Louis has played in recent weeks and the fact Colorado and to a lesser degree San Francisco aren't that far behind the Dodgers (and Phillies) in the standings.


The Dodgers are not a threat
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Old 08-29-2009, 03:45 PM
 
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The Dodgers are not a threat
They aren't a threat to do what? Your post is asking if the Phillies would have a tough NLDS matchup with the Rockies or Giants (I believe they would FWIW) and all I'm saying is the Phillies may not even PLAY the Rockies or Giants in the NLDS, assuming the Phillies make the playoffs and an NL West team wins the wild-card.
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Old 08-29-2009, 03:49 PM
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They aren't a threat to do what? Your post is asking if the Phillies would have a tough NLDS matchup with the Rockies or Giants (I believe they would FWIW) and all I'm saying is the Phillies may not even PLAY the Rockies or Giants in the NLDS, assuming the Phillies make the playoffs and an NL West team wins the wild-card.


Phillies not make the playoffs??????????????? They are 8 or 9 games ahead of the Fraudulent Braves and Marlins so how do you figure they will miss the playoffs? Also if the Phillies missed the playoffs I would walk outside A$$ NAKED singing-"ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE"

lol
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Old 08-29-2009, 03:50 PM
 
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The Phillies would be one of leading teams in runs scored in the NL regardless what park they played in.

That's debatable, put them in AT&T or Safeco and watch how their run production plummets.

Speaking of which, the Phillies lost 3 out of 4 to the Giants in SF about a month ago...scoring only 10 total runs in 4 games. Obviously part of that is due to great Giants pitching, but AT&T Park isn't a little league field either, and those HRs at Citizens Bank are suddenly just plain old fly ball outs in San Francisco.
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Old 08-29-2009, 05:39 PM
 
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Phillies are third in MLB in HRs hit at home...behind 2 other clubs, Yankees and Rangers, that also play in HR friendly parks.

Citizens Bank Park is responsible for the inflated HR and RBI numbers of virtually every Phillie in the lineup...including Howard.
I'm not questioning that the ballpark is a home run hitter's paradise. It's a bandbox. I only responded to the theory that Howard (who has more home runs on the road than at home) wouldn't be hitting them in Veterans Stadium, or anywhere else for that matter. The poster suggested that Howard would be less of a home run hitter if he didn't play in CBP, and that's simply not correct. He hits bombs, and they go out everywhere.
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Old 08-29-2009, 05:41 PM
 
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Did you also notice they started winning when they moved into CBP? Before CBP they were not in the playoffs
Did you notice that they have a better team than they had before they made the move?
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