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Old 11-06-2009, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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These teams don't count because Upton would be wrong then.Can't count the Marlins either.Over the next few years the Yankees payroll will drop but that wont matter either.I never hear him talking about the Red Sox paying such a high price to negotiate with Daisuke Matsuzaka either. It's like a deer in the headlights where nothing else matters and Upton wont take his blinders off!

Fact: The big difference between this year and last...the Bankees committed hundreds of millions in one off season to bring in Sabathia, Teixeira, and Burnett.... the kind of spending no other team is able to match.

Sabathia-161 million

Teixeira-180 million

Burnett-82.5 million

Total-423.5 million

This World Series was BOUGHT..
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:20 AM
 
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Fact: The big difference between this year and last...the Bankees committed hundreds of millions in one off season to bring in Sabathia, Teixeira, and Burnett.... something that no other team is able to do.

Sabathia-161 million

Teixeira-180 million

Burnett-82.5 million

Total-423.5 million

This World Series was BOUGHT..
This is actually an opinion...and IMO, one that is obtuse.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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This is actually an opinion...and IMO, one that is obtuse.
Get that from the Shawshank Redemption? The contract amounts are not opinion, nor is the fact that no other team is able to match that kind of spending.

Maybe you prefer to believe the World Series wasn't bought, but in effect it was...for the Yankees, because of their outrageous spending, highlighted even more by the purchases of Sabathia, Teixeiria, and Burnett, possess an inherent advantage over the rest of MLB.

You know, the simple fact that they've made the playoffs 14 out of 15 years ought to tell you something.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Cook County
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Ok, along with the Hot Stove sticky, I say we have a yankee-hater containment sticky as well.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:38 AM
 
Location: NE PA
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If its not about spending, who here is willing to bet money on the Pirates winning it all this year? Reds? A's? Indians?
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Cook County
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If its not about spending, who here is willing to bet money on the Pirates winning it all this year? Reds? A's? Indians?
Rays were 150-1 to win the AL last year in spring training, whoever bet that is a very happy man right now. But that actually proves your point, in the preseason NFL lines in Vegas, no team is usually more then a 75-1 or 80-1 shot to win it. However over the last 10 years you have seen baseball teams 250-1, 300-1 to win it all.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:58 AM
 
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Get that from the Shawshank Redemption? The contract amounts are not opinion, nor is the fact that no other team is able to match that kind of spending.

Maybe you prefer to believe the World Series wasn't bought, but in effect it was...for the Yankees, because of their outrageous spending, possess an inherent advantage over the rest of MLB. The fact that they've made the playoffs 14 out of 15 years ought to tell you something.
I take it you had to look it up. Hardly insightful. Your argument is tired and weak. Fact is the Yankees won 22 world championships prior to any accusation you could possibly make about payroll. 22. 20 of those were won before there were playoffs, of any kind. I guess one could make the argument that the playoffs were created "to make it more fair." If you want to ignore the establishment of a tradition for winning, go ahead. Go ahead and also ignore the fact that the majority of the Yankees' 25 man active roster are homegrowns. It's getting laughable.

You're talking about playoff appearances now? You don't expect them to make the playoffs after winning 4 rings (with players STILL on the team now)? Did you weep like this when they made the playoffs, or just now that they won the WS. Did the Phillies "buy" their pennant this year? I don't think so, but you have to, unless you admit inconsistency. Look at the National leauge payrolls and the Phillies' road to the WS. By your failing "logic," Boston also bought their 2 in this decade (especially '07), their only in 91 years. But again, I don't believe any WS has ever been bought for countless reasons.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Fact: The big difference between this year and last...the Bankees committed hundreds of millions in one off season to bring in Sabathia, Teixeira, and Burnett.... the kind of spending no other team is able to match.

Sabathia-161 million

Teixeira-180 million

Burnett-82.5 million

Total-423.5 million

This World Series was BOUGHT..
Let me ask you something genius.Did they have to give out $423.5 million to them all on the spot or is it spread out over a bunch of years? When Boston won the negotiating rights to Dice K for twhat I think was $50 million,did they lay it out all at once? For the Yankee question the answer is no,the Red Sox,yes.As far as free agency goes some people don't want to play for the Yankees while others might.When the salaries for Abreu, Giambi,and Pavano among others fell off prior to this year we could have easily signed them back for the same pay.So it's not the salaries that mattered,it was just the fact of 3 guys willing to come to our team which are better caliber players then the previous 3 that annoys you;obviously. So when Damon and Matsui's salaries($13 million each) fall off or we sign them back for less we will be in the $190's or lower.Will you still be complaining? I think so and it will never stop because of your inferiority complex.Remember Schilling said no to us. So did Clemens for many years until he realized no other team was in the playoffs as much as us so he came aboard.Also remember that Teixeira grew up a Mattingly fan, so his choice was easy.One last question.When Matsui and Damon's $26 million for the year fall off and we sign a guy for $15 million like a Holliday are you going to be upset? I bet you will even though it would mean $11 million less.I don't know how strongly we will pursue him,but it is a possibility. Face it you can tell me we spent over $400 million this off season,but we didn't.The contracts might equal that but are salaries went down and we have better players---thats the problem.If you took your car in for repairs and was quoted $500 for replcement parts you might do it.Now if you were offered the repairs for high performance/longer lasting parts for $300 instead,would you do that instead? Don't lie,you know you would and we made the obvious choice too.Better players for a lower salary=winner!!!
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:04 AM
 
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If its not about spending, who here is willing to bet money on the Pirates winning it all this year? Reds? A's? Indians?
Well if you bet money on the Yankees that last 8 years, I hope you broke even this year.....course that would mean you bet against your own boys.
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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If its not about spending, who here is willing to bet money on the Pirates winning it all this year? Reds? A's? Indians?
Well if they did what Minnesota does and kept some of their players around instead of trading them at the deadline then maybe they'd be competitive.In the last few years the Pirates got rid of Nady,Marte,Jason Bay and others.If they kept them and signed a few role players they might be in the playoffs.The fact is that they are not well run organizations and every year they give up and pocket the revenue $$$ instead of developing a team like the Marlins,Twins, or even the Rays!
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