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Old 07-10-2010, 10:53 PM
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LeBron James stunned NBA by leaving Cleveland Cavaliers for Miami Heat, but overreaction to move is out of line - ESPN

Now that it's all over, maybe we can return to some semblance of reality.
To help us get there, and before LeBron James becomes Public Enemy No. 2 in the next



SportsNation poll -- which seems to be happening in the aftermath of "The Decision" -- let's clear up a few things. It should send us on our way back to our normal existence.
One: This has been done before in other sports. (And no one had a problem with it.)
Two: We've seen this happen before in the NBA. (And no one had a problem with it.)


Alex Rodriguez decided he needed Derek Jeter. Is that any different than LeBron deciding he needs Dwyane Wade?




Three: Michael Jordan might have done the exact same thing. (But we'll never know.)


When Alex Rodriguez was playing in Texas (or, for that matter, in Seattle), he was considered the best player in baseball. He was very much the LeBron James of his game. He had lived up to and surpassed expectations. Still, he eventually realized he couldn't do solo all the things he wanted to get done, so he went to a team that wasn't his. He went to a place where he wouldn't be "The Man," at least not at first. He "took his talents" to New York. He became a Yankee, on Derek Jeter's team.


So the question is this: What's the difference with LeBron? Where is the profound difference between what A-Rod did in 2004 and what LeBron did Thursday night?
Here's the answer: Other than LeBron's personal connection to the city he left, nothing.


Again, this has been done before.
In 1982, Moses Malone was considered by many to be the best player in basketball, certainly one of the best of his generation, and he was still in his prime. But just after he collected the second of his three MVP awards and only one year removed from playing in the NBA Finals with the Houston Rockets, he became a restricted free agent.With his team apparently regressing (the Rockets went from their Finals appearance in '81 to out in the first round the next season), Moses decided to leave Houston and go play for the Philadelphia 76ers, a team that already had one of the other best players in the game and of his generation. A guy named Julius Erving.n his first year with Dr. J in Philly, Moses Malone found himself in the promised land of an NBA championship. See where this is going?
Dwyane Wade is Dr. J, LeBron is Moses and Chris Bosh is Andrew Toney in this analogy. The Sixers went on to win the chip the season Moses joined them, going down in history as one of the greatest teams of all time. And no one said anything about damage to Malone's legacy.
Again, we've seen this happen before.


Too many times since Thursday night, I've heard people express some form of the following sentiment about LeBron: Real ballers don't join the best; they try to beat the best. More than that, I've heard people (including on "SportsCenter") use MJ as an analogy, suggesting that LeBron just did what MJ would have never done: leave the Bulls back in the day to play for the Pistons because, at least before 1990, he couldn't beat Detroit. They're calling LeBron's decision a "punk" move.


That notion needs to be squashed right here. Fact is, Jordan never had the opportunity to test the free-agent market the way LeBron did. Jordan signed his rookie contract, then, three years into it, the Bulls put an eight-year, $25 million deal on the table that he signed and rode out until well after he'd been stacking rings on his fingers.
Bottom line: Jordan was never in the same position LeBron was. Never. And if MJ's long career in Chicago is going to be used to make a point about LeBron's decision to leave Cleveland, that not-so-little factor can't be ignored.


We'll never really know.
So before anybody else goes all Dan Gilbert on LeBron, take all that into consideration. And we can carry on with our lives.
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Old 07-11-2010, 12:58 AM
 
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Never. And if MJ's long career in Chicago is going to be used to make a point about LeBron's decision to leave Cleveland, that not-so-little factor can't be ignored.
That's true because if MJ were so loyal to Chicago then why not come back with Chicago instead of Washington, regardless of the money?

Fact is that if Jordan wasn't winning titles then maybe he would have left off to play in Utah or L.A.

Who really knows
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Old 07-11-2010, 08:30 AM
 
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^^ Jordan's team got blown up by Reinsdorf. They decided to disband and rebuild. And, he did take a pay cut going to the Bullets/Wizards.

Aside from the fact that "Scoop's" article is from an extremely skewed perspective and his "facts" are less than accurate, name one athlete in the history of sports who has turned free agency into such a narcissistic spectacle complete with a nationally televised kick in the teeth to his hometown. Can't do it? Didn't think so. LeQuit deserves every bit of criticism he gets.
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Old 07-11-2010, 08:36 AM
 
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^^ Jordan's team got blown up by Reinsdorf. They decided to disband and rebuild. And, he did take a pay cut going to the Bullets/Wizards.

Aside from the fact that "Scoop's" article is from an extremely skewed perspective and his "facts" are less than accurate, name one athlete in the history of sports who has turned free agency into such a narcissistic spectacle complete with a nationally televised kick in the teeth to his hometown. Can't do it? Didn't think so. LeQuit deserves every bit of criticism he gets.

It's not really Lebron though...It's all the people who build him up to make him into this big idol that people worship. I am a Heat fan and I do agree that the whole spectacle was too much because there are more important things in the world that the media could and should have spotlighted such as the death threats that the sheriff in Arizona has received from the Mexican Mafia or the U.S. dollar collapsing as time goes on and they continue printing money backed by thin air.
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Old 07-18-2010, 07:51 PM
 
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It's not really Lebron though...It's all the people who build him up to make him into this big idol that people worship.
Like those Cleveland fans...

Instead of banging your head on a brick wall (trying to win a championship with average-at-best talent), go try to bang it on this tissue paper (some place with a better chance to win)... And get over it, Cleveland. You wanna root for a winner so bad? Move somewhere else...
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Old 07-18-2010, 08:37 PM
 
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Disturbing.

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That's true because if MJ were so loyal to Chicago then why not come back with Chicago instead of Washington, regardless of the money?
Because Jordan was in charge of Basketball operations for the Wizards, when he came back. It would have been somewhat of a conflict of interest to play for someone else
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Old 07-19-2010, 01:17 AM
 
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Disturbing.



Because Jordan was in charge of Basketball operations for the Wizards, when he came back. It would have been somewhat of a conflict of interest to play for someone else
I forgot about that...lol....That would have been messed up if he played with Chicago as he ran things in the basketball operations department in Washington...lol
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Old 07-19-2010, 01:20 AM
 
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LeBron who?
Let him win a championship..or two...and then I'll consider him a great.
Until then...he just an other guy getting paid way too much for a child's game.
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Old 07-19-2010, 03:40 AM
 
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I forgot about that...lol....That would have been messed up if he played with Chicago as he ran things in the basketball operations department in Washington...lol
Lol yeah, those Bulls-Wizards games would have been very interesting if that happened
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