2010-11 NBA Season Thread (watching, coach, win, games)

[Greg1977]

Originally Posted by Black Jack22

Who were the idiots in this forum who said the Heat would be unstoppable???

Me,Me!!

Well, I didn't say unstoppable, but pretty sure they'd be better than what they're showing themselves to be at this point. At this point as things are playing out, I think the team most equipped to beat the Lakers are the Celtics, though I don't like the trade they made to get rid of Perkins. I think Miami with a year under their belt will be better next season( and yes I have made that point before).

[Shysister]

Originally Posted by Shysister

No I'm not partially right, I am right but obviously you missed my point. It doesn't matter what the Spurs or anyone's standing is teams just want a playoff spot. We've seen it time and time again with the teams who have good records who get cut in the first round, Mavs are a perfect example. However there are teams that in this late in the game, teams shouldn't loose too period. Just like the Heat loosing to the Bulls, they shouldn't have lost that game. You can sleep on the teams you know aren't competition however your rivals, the teams you know you're going to have to face down the stretch, you need to beat them point blank period. Like I said before, if this had been the Spurs who won the comments would be totally different. I don't see any of the Lakers being a bust comments now... how ironic. Where are all the Heat fans at? Like I stated the season didn't officially start until Feb. 25 and its very evident who the truly good teams are.

Originally Posted by rigas

so which is it, the really good teams start playing hard this time of the year or nobody cares what position they are in they only want a playoff spot. because if nobody cared what position then why would the good teams really play harder this time of year?

you make it sound as if the lakers are unstoppable because they have beaten some sub par teams, inched out a win over the thunder and had the best game they have played in 2 seasons against the spurs. again my points stand that if the good teams are supposed to play better this time of year, and not take games lightly then explain the lakers last year losing going something like 11-9 in the last 20. or the celtics who looked so-so all season until the proverbial "switch" was thrown in the playoffs.

i think your argument is pointless as you cant make up your mind what its going to be apparently. as i have said many times i do not think the lakers will make it out of the west, i have confidence in the spurs. hell i dont know if the lakers can get past the mavs at this point. even though they are very injured, even the blazers give them fits. the lakers look like they have the hardest road of any team int he league to get to the title and are coming off a cushy schedule all season.

Again you are missing the point because the only thing you keep putting emphasis on is the Lakers vs the Spurs game which your beloved Spurs lost. So you're speaking emotionally. I'm going to highlight what my point was and try to simplify it one more time then I'm done. If you get it then great, if you don't I'm moving on because it's pointless to continue to get someone to be objective when they have selective thinking. Its like beating a dead horse.

Ok the red is saying the standings doesn't matter because teams just want a playoff spot. You're talking about the Spurs coming out #1 however them being the #1 seed isn't going to guarantee them a championship.

The blue was speaking in terms of teams who ARE already guaranteed a playoff spot, Lakers, Spurs, etc. and my point was that when these teams play against each other, its a big deal because these are teams they know they're going to have to face at some point in the playoffs so they're going to treat those games like pre playoffs. All the commentators were saying that Spurs and Lakers game was like a playoff game and the same was said about the Heat and Bulls game which is why you had Heat players crying after the lost. NOW these games are SERIOUS business! and that Lakers defeat over the Spurs sent a message. Do I think the Lakers are unbeatable? Of course not however I don't think the Spurs can beat them in a series and the only team I think is competition for the Lakers is Boston.

[Shysister]

Originally Posted by Greg1977

Me,Me!!

Well, I didn't say unstoppable, but pretty sure they'd be better than what they're showing themselves to be at this point. At this point as things are playing out, I think the team most equipped to beat the Lakers are the Celtics, though I don't like the trade they made to get rid of Perkins. I think Miami with a year under their belt will be better next season( and yes I have made that point before).

Exactly and I hated that trade too. However Perkins said he was interested in joining the Thunder last season so he wanted out anyway.

[JL]

I'd have to differ a little bit in that i would add the Mavs besides the Celtics as the two teams giving the Lakers the most competition. The Spurs' size was their weakness and they never pursued another big before the trade deadline. The Mavs have the size to match up with the Lakers and deep wing guys, so that will be an interesting 2nd round series for both. While the Celtics lost some tough interior D w/o Perkins, they got alot more scoring punch with Kristic and Green. I never thought Nate was all that.

The Bulls have seriously matured over the past several weeks. I will be somewhat surprised if they make the Finals, but i can't be too surprised considering how well they are playing now. The Heat don't look good now, but the playoffs are another season and you just never know. They could be the wildcard.

The Thunder are a little more complicated to figure out. Until Perkins gets situated, i can't figure out how well they will do. There is a chance they might slip to the 6th seed which would mean playing the Lakers in the 1st round and an epic battle.

[Shysister]

I can agree with the Mavs having potential to be competition with the Lakers however I can't put too much confidence in the Mavs because they're known to flop but yeah there's a possibility they could give the Lakers a run for their money provided they are healthy and I too agree with the verdict being out on the Thunder. I like them so I hope they at least can advance to the 2nd round.

[Greg1977]

Originally Posted by Shysister

However Perkins said he was interested in joining the Thunder last season so he wanted out anyway.

Yeah.... having said that, I'd have kept him for this season's playoff run and let the off-season take care of itself. This could be this Celtics team last big chance at a ring( of course we were saying the same thing last year lol). I don't think the trade makes them better, and with a team where 3 of your 4 best players are 33-35 years old, you should probably be more concerned with the immediate here and now and maximizing the potential of this particular core before the window closes. Of course I'm not a GM

[rigas]

Originally Posted by Shysister

Again you are missing the point because the only thing you keep putting emphasis on is the Lakers vs the Spurs game which your beloved Spurs lost. So you're speaking emotionally. I'm going to highlight what my point was and try to simplify it one more time then I'm done. If you get it then great, if you don't I'm moving on because it's pointless to continue to get someone to be objective when they have selective thinking. Its like beating a dead horse.

Ok the red is saying the standings doesn't matter because teams just want a playoff spot. You're talking about the Spurs coming out #1 however them being the #1 seed isn't going to guarantee them a championship.

The blue was speaking in terms of teams who ARE already guaranteed a playoff spot, Lakers, Spurs, etc. and my point was that when these teams play against each other, its a big deal because these are teams they know they're going to have to face at some point in the playoffs so they're going to treat those games like pre playoffs. All the commentators were saying that Spurs and Lakers game was like a playoff game and the same was said about the Heat and Bulls game which is why you had Heat players crying after the lost. NOW these games are SERIOUS business! and that Lakers defeat over the Spurs sent a message. Do I think the Lakers are unbeatable? Of course not however I don't think the Spurs can beat them in a series and the only team I think is competition for the Lakers is Boston.

1st i got your point a long time ago, and your point makes no sense because you contradict your self now and then.

2nd, i stopped reading your posts on the subject a while ago because they contradict each other so your welcome to continue or your welcome to not its all you buddy.

[Shysister]

Originally Posted by rigas

1st i got your point a long time ago, and your point makes no sense because you contradict your self now and then.

2nd, i stopped reading your posts on the subject a while ago because they contradict each other so your welcome to continue or your welcome to not its all you buddy.

How do you stop reading someone's post yet you reply to it? The only person contradicting themselves is you. Moving on.

[Shysister]

Originally Posted by Greg1977

Yeah.... having said that, I'd have kept him for this season's playoff run and let the off-season take care of itself. This could be this Celtics team last big chance at a ring( of course we were saying the same thing last year lol). I don't think the trade makes them better, and with a team where 3 of your 4 best players are 33-35 years old, you should probably be more concerned with the immediate here and now and maximizing the potential of this particular core before the window closes. Of course I'm not a GM

It looks like they lost confidence in Perkins and they saw a way to get rid of him so they did. It could end up biting them in the butt or maybe not but its obvious they no longer had any faith in him.

[Greg1977]

Originally Posted by Shysister

How do you stop reading someone's post yet you reply to it? The only person contradicting themselves is you.

I was thinking the same.