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Old 02-18-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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Latest word is Reggie miller is nit going to make the final ballot for HOF voting this year. I guess he isn't a 1st ballot guy and I think ray Allen is the reason why. Had ray not passed him till next year then maybe he gets on the ballot, but the bad luck hit at the wrong time.
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Old 02-18-2011, 11:48 AM
 
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I'm not sure why Ray Allen's career would impact what Reggie Miller did with his. I would imagine Reggie Miller's viability for HOF induction was established long before Ray passing him. Zero championships aside, the guy had a standout career.

P.S I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing

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Old 02-18-2011, 12:04 PM
 
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Rays career shouldn't impact Reggie BUT considering Redford biggest claim to fame was his 3 ball makes, and rayray took that from him less then a month before final ballot voting may very well have taken his 1st ballot from him.
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Old 02-18-2011, 04:42 PM
 
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Don't see it. Here's the scenario you're describing:

HOF voter before Ray Allen breaks record: 'Yeah, Reggie is a definite first ballot. He's got my vote'.

*Ray Allen breaks record*

HOF voter after Ray Allen breaks record: 'Well hmmmm... sorry Reg. Ray Allen broke your mark so ummmm, nope no vote for you this time around.

Seriously doubt that happened.
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Old 02-18-2011, 05:04 PM
 
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I don't think it would go quite like that, more like "well the only real HOF worthy thing he has is his 3 pt makes.....oops guess he doesn't have that any more."
When the only real hard HOF evidence you have is being second on something, you lose out on all sorts of things.
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Old 02-21-2011, 12:07 PM
 
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I don't think it would go quite like that, more like "well the only real HOF worthy thing he has is his 3 pt makes.....oops guess he doesn't have that any more."
That's if you assume that he's only getting in on the basis of his 3 point makes. The guy has(without looking at the stats), 25,000 points? Multiple All-NBA team selections? I think he gets in, perhaps not first ballot but he will get in. And him not getting in this year, I'm willing to bet, had nothing to do with Ray breaking his record. If he's not getting in this year, it's because the voter don't think he's first ballot irrespective of him losing his 3point record.

Really, there's a handful of players who have truly legendary careers in terms of career achievements both individual and team. Jordan, Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan. Everyone else is basically playing for second place to that group anyways.....
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Old 02-22-2011, 12:53 PM
 
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Reggie is a HOFer, just 1st ballot is a little borderline.

We will never know if the record falling made 1 or 2 fickle voters flip-flop.
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Old 02-23-2011, 05:54 AM
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I think alot of times the writers want to get all the really old guys on the ballot and in the HOF before they die or something who didn't make it yet since Reggie is borderline, thus he can wait........i have no doubt Reggie will get in the next time he gets on the ballot.

I'm surprised that Rudy Tomjanavich got left out.
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Old 02-24-2011, 07:48 AM
 
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I wouldn't go as far as call Reggie Borderline... his career isn't any more or less successful than someone like Patrick Ewing, who's already in the hall. He may not be first ballot, but he'll definitely get in. Heck, Joe Dumars is in the hall of fame and aside from 2 championships( as part of an ensemble cast of really good players), was his career otherwise equal or better than Reggie's? I wouldn't say so...
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Old 02-25-2011, 06:56 AM
 
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Kobe Bryant, one of the 5 greatest ever.
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