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Old 02-22-2011, 09:09 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I always respected Charlie Rosen's perspective on these matters. Interesting take he has on this deal and I tend to agree with him.

Rosen: Carmelo Anthony won't help Knicks win - NBA News | FOX Sports on MSN
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Old 02-22-2011, 09:16 PM
 
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The Bulls would destroy the Knicks. Now if they start adding pieces and emphasize defense then yeah....down the road maybe but even then I don't see Amare and Carmelo changing their spots at this point in their career. (In his defense Carmelo is not a bad defender, just not good IMO)
Destroy is too strong of a word. The Bulls would be favored, but this NYK would still be one of the toughest 6 seeds to come out of the EC in a long time. Not to mention the Knicks are 2-0 vs the Bulls...In both games they were extremely efficent on the offesnive end and this year the Bulls aren't really winning a lot of 120-110 games type games. Would the Knicks score 120 every game, of course not, but they are a talented enough team to make them a first round annoynace.
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Old 02-23-2011, 02:10 AM
 
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Yep, I agree with Rosen. I think Melo is overrated since, really, all he does is score. And, I think you can say the same thing about Amare. Who is going to play defense? Heck, I know, who is even going to coach defense? Plus, can the Knicks even afford another top flight player in the coming years?

I know you have to give up something to get something, but I think the Knicks gave up too much depth...
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:43 AM
 
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Destroy is too strong of a word. The Bulls would be favored, but this NYK would still be one of the toughest 6 seeds to come out of the EC in a long time. Not to mention the Knicks are 2-0 vs the Bulls...In both games they were extremely efficent on the offesnive end and this year the Bulls aren't really winning a lot of 120-110 games type games. Would the Knicks score 120 every game, of course not, but they are a talented enough team to make them a first round annoynace.
The Knicks shot 16-24 and 12-22 from 3pt range in those games. Suffice to say that if they can do that in the playoffs we will be looking at the next NBA champs.

Annoyance, ok I agree there and yes destroy is too strong of a word.

They won't be a threat to go deep in the playoffs until they replace their pieces.

They won't be a threat to win a championship unless they start playing D.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:48 AM
 
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I always respected Charlie Rosen's perspective on these matters. Interesting take he has on this deal and I tend to agree with him.

Rosen: Carmelo Anthony won't help Knicks win - NBA News | FOX Sports on MSN
I guess it depends on the timeframe and definition of "win".

The Knicks were a barely .500 club in the weaker east. They probably won't be a TON better after the trade (short term) but after they re-load some role players (longer term) I think they will be notably better, depends whom they add.

Carmelo is a HECKUVA lot better than the previous 2nd best Knick and you can only get 5 guys on the court at a time. I think they can generally replace the guys they lost but it will take a year or two.
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Old 02-23-2011, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Southeastern Tennessee
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Well, it's about time. I guess it's safe to mention the Knicks are now a playoff contender.
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Old 02-23-2011, 05:13 PM
 
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Knicks where playoff bound anyway
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Old 02-24-2011, 09:01 AM
 
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Well, it's about time. I guess it's safe to mention the Knicks are now a playoff contender.
They were already the 6th seed and making the playoffs in the east means you didn't even win half your games.

Personally, I would laugh my butt off if the Knicks struggle with the new arrangement (look at Miami's early woes) because then the NY Media and casual bandwagoners would pitch a fit.
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Old 02-24-2011, 09:12 AM
 
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I always respected Charlie Rosen's perspective on these matters. Interesting take he has on this deal and I tend to agree with him.

Rosen: Carmelo Anthony won't help Knicks win - NBA News | FOX Sports on MSN
Yep, this echos a lot of what I've been saying but (and for the record I hate the Knicks) I'm more optimistic about their future than he is.

They need more talent and A LOT more defense if they are going to be anything but a 5-8 seed for years in the top heavy east.

It will be interesting to see if Melo and Amare can make the transition.

CP is a very good defender so if they can get him perhaps he can impose his will on the team along with a new coach. In short, this Knicks squad has a long long way to go.
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Old 02-24-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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Seems like the Knicks are moving up in the East, but I'm not sure if they are gonna be able to beat the Heat or the C's in a 7 game series.
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