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Old 04-18-2011, 12:12 PM
 
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There seems to be an abundance of bad calls in NBA games, and I think it's because the league's marquee talents are marketed much heavier than the teams, hence the 'star' treatment, which I personally hate. So in the interest of ratings,a Kobe or a Lebron fouling out is a bad thing, because many people tune in to see those players, as much as the actual teams. A single great player can influence a game moreso than probably any other major team-oriented sport.
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Old 04-18-2011, 01:20 PM
 
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There seems to be an abundance of bad calls in NBA games, and I think it's because the league's marquee talents are marketed much heavier than the teams, hence the 'star' treatment, which I personally hate. So in the interest of ratings,a Kobe or a Lebron fouling out is a bad thing, because many people tune in to see those players, as much as the actual teams. A single great player can influence a game moreso than probably any other major team-oriented sport.
1) well when it's 5 v 5 and they play both ways....and you can channel your offense through a specific player then just that structure will produce the same results.

2) I rarely see any starter foul out, I think the better players are smarter about thier play and limit their fouls. In fact, two HUGE names in the NBA are always in the hunt for the "personal foul" title. Basically, unless its some big man in the paint that likes to mix it up I never see guys struggling with foul trouble whether it's a Kobe or a Derek Fischer.

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Old 04-18-2011, 01:21 PM
 
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Back to topic.

Unless Indy manages another hot 3-pt. shooting night I think the Bulls will win by 12+
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Old 04-18-2011, 01:24 PM
 
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1) well when it's 5 v 5 and they play both ways....and you can channel your offense through a specific player then just that structure will produce the same results.

2) I rarely see any starter foul out, I think the better players are smarter about thier play and limit their fouls. In fact, two HUGE names in the NBA are always in the hunt for the "personal foul" title. Basically, unless its some big man in the paint that likes to mix it up I never see guys struggling with foul trouble whether it's a Kobe or a Derek Fischer.

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I haven't seen Kobe or Lebron foul out in ages.... in terms of bringing viewers in, both are beyond someone like D-12. So the chances of seeing them foul-out is probably less....the NBA is afterall, a business. It's why crap like the 'star' treatment exists.....
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Old 04-18-2011, 01:42 PM
 
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There seems to be an abundance of bad calls in NBA games, and I think it's because the league's marquee talents are marketed much heavier than the teams, hence the 'star' treatment, which I personally hate. So in the interest of ratings,a Kobe or a Lebron fouling out is a bad thing, because many people tune in to see those players, as much as the actual teams. A single great player can influence a game moreso than probably any other major team-oriented sport.
Oh definitely. That's why Kobe can get away with doing things and not get any T's, and Lebron can travel and charge without getting whistled. MJ was also a huge beneficiary of this system.

I'm surprised Dwight Howard isn't a recipient of this star treatment.
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Old 04-18-2011, 02:05 PM
 
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big men are different, i mean look at shaq and yao. you can pound on them all game but if they touch you, you go flying and they get fouls.
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Old 04-18-2011, 02:22 PM
 
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I haven't seen Kobe or Lebron foul out in ages.... in terms of bringing viewers in, both are beyond someone like D-12. So the chances of seeing them foul-out is probably less....the NBA is afterall, a business. It's why crap like the 'star' treatment exists.....
They get 6 fouls each and are smart players. How many disciplined perimeter college players do you see foul out?

P.S. Kobe was heavily hampered by foul trouble in game 2 of the finals last year.
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Old 04-18-2011, 03:21 PM
 
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They get 6 fouls each and are smart players.
That doesn't change the fact that they are often the beneficiary of getting preferential treatment from the refs.... hell how many times have you heard 'oh he's a rookie, he's not going to get that call'. It's pretty obvious that things aren't called down the middle in the NBA.
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Old 04-18-2011, 03:51 PM
 
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Kobe was one T away from a suspension this season and had tons of techs the past few seasons. Also the star player doesn't check the other teams star player most times. So there is less chance they will foul.
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Old 04-18-2011, 03:52 PM
 
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