U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Sports > Basketball
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 04-30-2011, 09:56 PM
FBJ
 
Location: Tall Building down by the river
39,615 posts, read 50,293,177 times
Reputation: 9451

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathguy View Post
Way to define your "success"to meet your personal needs.

<shrug> I honestly dont care but to try to marginalize the Spurs....a team that has been a contender for a decade or so....is silly.
But being eliminated doesn't make you a powerhouse just a championship contender. Powerhouses were the Celtics who made the Finals 4 years in a row.84, 85, 86, and 87. or the Lakers who made the finals 4 years in a row in 82, 83, 84, and 85.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 04-30-2011, 10:27 PM
 
Location: spring tx
7,912 posts, read 8,195,031 times
Reputation: 1982
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathguy View Post
Jesus, that post is retarded. Got any more pacers beat the Bulls predictions for us or are you just going to keep predicting everything and then bumping your "correct" predictions?
Its the same guy who said the 76ers would take ANY top team in the east 7 games.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-30-2011, 10:30 PM
 
Location: spring tx
7,912 posts, read 8,195,031 times
Reputation: 1982
Quote:
Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy View Post
But being eliminated doesn't make you a powerhouse just a championship contender. Powerhouses were the Celtics who made the Finals 4 years in a row.84, 85, 86, and 87. or the Lakers who made the finals 4 years in a row in 82, 83, 84, and 85.
Yeah back when things where much different . No salary cap, only a couple of teams had the money to buy their way to the finals, ironically those teams where the lakers and celtics. Things changed later, teams got a lot more competative when you couldn't buy the best players in the league so easily.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 04-30-2011, 11:11 PM
 
207 posts, read 308,378 times
Reputation: 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by rigas View Post
Yeah back when things where much different . No salary cap, only a couple of teams had the money to buy their way to the finals, ironically those teams where the lakers and celtics. Things changed later, teams got a lot more competative when you couldn't buy the best players in the league so easily.
Well I find it ironic that once a salary cap was put into place during the 1984-85 season, the Lakers went on to win 8 NBA titles.

This from wikipedia:

The NBA had a salary cap in the mid-1940s, but it was abolished after only one season. The League continued to play without such a cap until 198485, when the current incarnation of the salary cap was instituted in an attempt to level the playing field among all of the NBA's teams and ensure competitive balance for the League in the future. Before the cap was reinstated, teams could spend whatever amount of money they wanted on players, but in the first season under the new cap, they were each limited to $3.6 million in total payroll.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-01-2011, 07:52 AM
 
Location: spring tx
7,912 posts, read 8,195,031 times
Reputation: 1982
yes they did, but 85, 86, 87 where pretty much all teh same team so the cap didnt have an effect on that team. a cap being implemented doesnt mean you have to get rid of your players it just means you cant bring in new ones at unmatchable prices. also look at the salaries they have paid, luxury tax every year nearly, and especially every title season. case in point, 2000-2001 the lakers salary was ABOUT 60mil, the salary cap on the other hand was 35.5mil. the lakers where nearly double, in other words the lakers have been buying titles since they started. i personally feel the league needs to go to a hard cap, this would curb the ridiculous salaries the players get, and would make things a bit more balanced for all teams. it would really balance the teams more IMO. no more triplets like in miami without those guys taking reasonable money. and no 14 mil is not reasonable money for playing a game. but in the end thats a whole other thread.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-01-2011, 08:01 AM
 
51,901 posts, read 41,783,059 times
Reputation: 32374
Quote:
Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy View Post
But being eliminated doesn't make you a powerhouse just a championship contender. Powerhouses were the Celtics who made the Finals 4 years in a row.84, 85, 86, and 87. or the Lakers who made the finals 4 years in a row in 82, 83, 84, and 85.
Well, there you have it. Different people will define that ambiguous word differently.

It's like saying you caught an enormous fish and on that note we will just have to agree to disagree.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-01-2011, 08:53 AM
 
207 posts, read 308,378 times
Reputation: 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by rigas View Post
yes they did, but 85, 86, 87 where pretty much all teh same team so the cap didnt have an effect on that team. a cap being implemented doesnt mean you have to get rid of your players it just means you cant bring in new ones at unmatchable prices. also look at the salaries they have paid, luxury tax every year nearly, and especially every title season. case in point, 2000-2001 the lakers salary was ABOUT 60mil, the salary cap on the other hand was 35.5mil. the lakers where nearly double, in other words the lakers have been buying titles since they started. i personally feel the league needs to go to a hard cap, this would curb the ridiculous salaries the players get, and would make things a bit more balanced for all teams. it would really balance the teams more IMO. no more triplets like in miami without those guys taking reasonable money. and no 14 mil is not reasonable money for playing a game. but in the end thats a whole other thread.
As long as you play within the rules and guidelines that the NBA has set forth and the Lakers have done that by being proactive, and what team wouldnt do that. The alternative would be for them to sit on their hands and do nothing. It is what it is. During the same time span the Celtics who you said were buying titles have only won two titles. A larger market such as New York, the Knicks havent won a title since 1973, yet smaller markets such Detroit and Houston have 3 and 2 respectively. It goes further than just the financial aspect. Drafting, such as a kid from high school, named Kobe, having a competent front office to make hard decisions be it trades or free agency. The point being give credit to organizations for doing what it takes to win titles.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-01-2011, 10:23 AM
 
Location: spring tx
7,912 posts, read 8,195,031 times
Reputation: 1982
Lmao so now the lakers drafted kobe? Good night now.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-01-2011, 10:46 AM
 
207 posts, read 308,378 times
Reputation: 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by rigas View Post
Lmao so now the lakers drafted kobe? Good night now.
haha well you got me there. technically he was drafted by the hornets, right out of high school, but you're missing the point. The Lakers traded for him immediately after he was drafted by the hornets, a deal that was probably in the making prior to the draft. One of the best moves the Lakers ever made.

At any rate, rigas, a nice way to escape from the issue at hand, enjoy the games
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-01-2011, 11:08 AM
FBJ
 
Location: Tall Building down by the river
39,615 posts, read 50,293,177 times
Reputation: 9451
I don't think Stern is to thrilled to see the Thunder and Grizzlies on ABC
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Sports > Basketball
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top