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Old 05-02-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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But that was because of Derrick Rose. Doug Collins took a team that was 3-13 to the first round of the playoffs. No that is more impressive than a team who won 62 games.
The Bulls integrated Boozer into the squad had a number of injuries to starters....started the season something like 9-8 and landed the #1 seed.

They are winning their games with defense....which is the coach's doing.
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Old 05-02-2011, 08:39 AM
 
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Isnt the Coach of the Year award usually given to a coach, not a team?
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:04 AM
 
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He was worthy, so was COllins with his young team, so was Hollins as the Grizz are playing fantastic without Rudy Gay....Phil never gets credit but who really could handle Kobe, LA and those high expectations and injuries to Bynum and others?

Sad Keith Smart got fired as he added ten wins his first season.....Adelman does a great job with the Rockets...
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Old 05-02-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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Coach of the year is really hard to quantify. So much depends on who's on the roster, injuries, and so on. Can you say a coach that has the best roster coaches 'better' than a coach who works with marginal talent? It's a tough call....
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:28 AM
 
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He was worthy, so was COllins with his young team, so was Hollins as the Grizz are playing fantastic without Rudy Gay....Phil never gets credit but who really could handle Kobe, LA and those high expectations and injuries to Bynum and others?

Sad Keith Smart got fired as he added ten wins his first season.....Adelman does a great job with the Rockets...
It's also an award that gets "passed around". Look at all the different names on the list, no repeats in 18 years or so.

NBA.com: Coach of the Year

Phil gets plenty of credit, the guy has more rings than fingers and everyone respects him greatly.
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:47 AM
 
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But Phil has always had all-world talent. His greatest ability is being able to massage superstar egos. I always thought the real x's and o's were left to Tex Winters,Cleamons and other assistants.
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:05 AM
 
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But Phil has always had all-world talent. His greatest ability is being able to massage superstar egos. I always thought the real x's and o's were left to Tex Winters,Cleamons and other assistants.
Yes. That is absolutely the case.

On that note, we have yet another sour grapes thread....busted.
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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Yes. That is absolutely the case.

On that note, we have yet another sour grapes thread....busted.
LMAO

ok so the real sad part is that in his ridiculously successful career, jerry sloan "retired" with not a single COY award. that is just a shame.
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Old 05-02-2011, 11:56 AM
 
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But Phil has always had all-world talent. His greatest ability is being able to massage superstar egos. I always thought the real x's and o's were left to Tex Winters,Cleamons and other assistants.
But when you are dealing with multi million dollar athletes that is the biggest part of it. I don't think anyone can become a NBA head coach without having a PhD's worth of X's and O's knowledge. The hard part is understanding how to handle egos and motivate players. Look at Stan Van Gundy. The man clearly has a great basketball mind. However, he lost his players a long time ago. Being able to actually coach ego maniacs like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant is a serious accomplishment. Mike Brown couldn't do with LeBron James. Being able to integrate guys like Dennis Rodman and Ron Artest is just as impressive. If it were all about X's and O's the list of elite coaches wouldn't be so small.

As far as Thibbs winning the award, I think he deserves it. He did a heck of a job this year. Collins could just as easily have won it as well. It is a subjective award. There will never be a consensus among fans. I just take it for what it is.
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Old 05-03-2011, 07:31 PM
 
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I saw on ESPN that he won the coach of the year and I think it was a bad decision because we all know why the Bulls won 61 games. It was so many other candidates that could have won like Doug Collins, or Scott Brooks but to give it to a coach who team had the most wins is too easy. I never thought that award was about what team had the most wins but the improvement through out the course of the season. It's so hard to take that award seriously now days.
Ask yourself this; did anybody at the beginnng of the year pick the Chicago Bulls to win the number 1 seed in the Eastern Conference.

Most people either didn't or if they did they are in all probability LYING.

Chicago started the season with Carlos Boozer in the lineup. then lost Noah. Yet this team still found a way to go out every night and play strong defense and put out a consistent effort. THAT COMES DOWN TO COACHING!

The Bulls play great defense and great team basketball on offense.

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