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Old 05-11-2011, 02:41 PM
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They need to get rid of the DEAD WEIGHT

Luke Walon
Matt Barnes
Steve Blake
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Old 05-13-2011, 09:13 AM
 
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The Magic will never trade Dwight Howard. There is no way that happens, unless Dwight actually tells his intent to the team that he has no plans to stay here, and I really don't see that happening either. The Magic will hold on to any thread of hope to keep him until the bitter end. This will be another LeBron scenario, except Dwight will not wait as long and have a television show about it. LA may get Dwight in the end, but it will not be via trade.

As for Howard's offensive skills, if you think this guy's game is limited I have to wonder how much you have seen Dwight this year, because it is night and day compared to prior years. He has developed a face-up bank shot and a very good hook shot. He is also extremely quick in the paint and can get around guys with his moves rather than just bulldozing through guys (though he does that too). He has the entire low post game now, both offensively and defensively.

There are only 3 issues with his game right now:

1) He is not a good passer
2) He is still inconsistent from the free throw line, however at the end of the year he was having several great games from the line
3) He turns the ball over too much
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Old 05-13-2011, 09:29 AM
 
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The Magic will never trade Dwight Howard. There is no way that happens, unless Dwight actually tells his intent to the team that he has no plans to stay here, and I really don't see that happening either. The Magic will hold on to any thread of hope to keep him until the bitter end.
Of course the risk is Howard bolts via free agency, leaving Orlando with no sort of compensation.
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Old 05-13-2011, 09:48 AM
 
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a lot of talk lately of rick adelman being the man the lakers want to coach.
i say that, outside of jerry sloan is the best option on the market
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Old 05-13-2011, 11:08 AM
 
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Wonder why they wouldn't hire inhouse and go with Brian Shaw?
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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i dont think they are sold on shaw, and when you have a chance to hire a couple of the all time greats or a guy who isnt but what 5 yrs out of the league who you gonna pick? adelman is IMO a top 5 coach in the last 20 years. he may have never won a title but his teams have almost always been super competitive even with lesser talent and injuries. then there is sloan i mean he isnt on their list (or that we know of) but the guy is a legend.
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:01 PM
 
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adelman is IMO a top 5 coach in the last 20 years.
Just off the top of my head, coaches I'd rank over him:

Phil Jackson
Pat Riley
Jerry Sloan
Gregg Popovich
Don Nelson
Doc Rivers
Chuck Daly
Rudy Tomjanovich
Lenny Wilkins

Of course some of those are debatable but just my opinion.....Furthermore, it's been said that familiarity with the players is very important, and you can bet your bottom dollar that Kobe is going to have a lot of input.
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:31 PM
 
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Just off the top of my head, coaches I'd rank over him:

Phil Jackson
Pat Riley
Jerry Sloan
Gregg Popovich
Don Nelson
Doc Rivers
Chuck Daly
Rudy Tomjanovich
Lenny Wilkins

Of course some of those are debatable but just my opinion.....Furthermore, it's been said that familiarity with the players is very important, and you can bet your bottom dollar that Kobe is going to have a lot of input.
all good coaches, over him, i dont know if i would say that. rick has had 11 50+ win seasons since he started coaching, thats better then 50% OVER 50 wins. he has 2 60+ wins and 2 59 win seasons as well.

PJ has 17 (but i have an * by his name other thread)
pop has 13 and only 2 seasons with less then 50 wins (one was the lock out where he would have easily broken 50 wins, pop had duncan so possible *)
rudy t has 3 fifty win seasons.
im not gonna go through them all but i would say rick is easily in the middle of that list worst case. i would say doc rivers is NOT better, no way no how. the guy has 4 50+ win seasons (the last 4) but they come with 3 HOF players, and a PG that isnt one of them but could end up there in the right situation. before he got KG/allen to john pierce he was 231-312 all time.
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Old 05-13-2011, 02:59 PM
 
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all good coaches, over him, i dont know if i would say that. rick has had 11 50+ win seasons since he started coaching, thats better then 50% OVER 50 wins. he has 2 60+ wins and 2 59 win seasons as well.

PJ has 17 (but i have an * by his name other thread)
pop has 13 and only 2 seasons with less then 50 wins (one was the lock out where he would have easily broken 50 wins, pop had duncan so possible *)
rudy t has 3 fifty win seasons.
im not gonna go through them all but i would say rick is easily in the middle of that list worst case. i would say doc rivers is NOT better, no way no how. the guy has 4 50+ win seasons (the last 4) but they come with 3 HOF players, and a PG that isnt one of them but could end up there in the right situation. before he got KG/allen to john pierce he was 231-312 all time.
Well as I said it's debatable. I don't feel like dissecting and going through all the records of each guy on my list. All the guys I listed are great successful coaches, and I can't say that Adelman is better than any of them, especially the first 4-5 names. Doc Rivers is one hell of a coach, perhaps you've forgotten but he was coach of the year back in 2001 with Tracey Mcgrady and scrubs. You can probably fit Adelman somewhere near the bottom of that list, but top 5? Not in my book.....
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Old 05-13-2011, 05:39 PM
 
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ehhh doc won coach of the year on a team that won 4 more games then the season before the lock out 1999 season (it was in 2000 not 2001). i dont remember the circumstances of how/why he won it but his record shows he isnt that good. outside of the stacked team he has had the last 4 years in boston, he has a losing record, and not close to 500 losing record.

as for the 4 names on the top of the list, pat riley i would say his best days where before adelman started or right in the early going. he won a title with wade, shaq and the refs after firing a coach who could have done the same thing IMO. rick is a top coach, surely better then brian shaw. any team who would take shaw over him would be foolish.
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