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Old 05-18-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Wolves get hosed again...still punished for Joe Smith deal???

Not necessarily the frozen Knicks envelope but more of the same...


"This league has a habit, and I am just going to say habit, of producing some pretty incredible story lines,” Kahn said. “Last year it was Abe Pollin’s widow and this year it was a 14-year-old boy and the only thing we have in common is we have both been bar mitzvahed. We were done. I told Kevin: ‘We’re toast.’ This is not happening for us and I was right.”
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:58 AM
 
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Wolves get hosed again...still punished for Joe Smith deal???

Not necessarily the frozen Knicks envelope but more of the same...


"This league has a habit, and I am just going to say habit, of producing some pretty incredible story lines,” Kahn said. “Last year it was Abe Pollin’s widow and this year it was a 14-year-old boy and the only thing we have in common is we have both been bar mitzvahed. We were done. I told Kevin: ‘We’re toast.’ This is not happening for us and I was right.”
Is there really a huge difference between the top 3-5 picks this year?

I mean, sure....if it's the year a Lebron or Duncan or Shaq turns pro then picking #1 is HUGE but most years <shrug>.
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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I've heard that this is a weak draft...the top 2 picks are good but after that, not so much. Yes I agree there is no franchise player this year.
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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Every year some team that actually gets the #1 pick uses some sort of gimmack.

I think the Timberwolves should try something next year, like maybe having their Minnesota mascot, Al Franken present during the drawing.
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:27 PM
 
Location: San José, CA
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As a Cavaliers fan, I'm happy about it. =P

But in all honestly, if Kahn gets #1 pick, does he take ANOTHER PG? No way, right? Or maybe he is that nuts. I guess he probably just wanted better trade bait.

In all honesty though, I think Irving could be the one franchise player. He's pretty spectacular and if he had played more than a small fraction of the year, I think more people would know that.
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Old 05-19-2011, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Default It's the Lakers Fault

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Wolves get hosed again...still punished for Joe Smith deal???

Not necessarily the frozen Knicks envelope but more of the same...


"This league has a habit, and I am just going to say habit, of producing some pretty incredible story lines,” Kahn said. “Last year it was Abe Pollin’s widow and this year it was a 14-year-old boy and the only thing we have in common is we have both been bar mitzvahed. We were done. I told Kevin: ‘We’re toast.’ This is not happening for us and I was right.”
Unfortunately the Wolves futility in luck predates even Joe Smith and nothing demonstrates their black cloud any better than a 3 year run starting in 1992...

1992 - worst record in the league, they fall to #3 in the lottery and watch as Orlando picks Shaquille ONeal and Charlotte takes Alonzo Mourning while they then take NCAA Legend Christain Laettner.

1993 - they achieve the 2nd worst record in the league and are rewarded for that effort by picking #5 and select future Hall of Shame Legend Isaiah Rider. Meanwhile ahead of them…

#1 Chris Weber (Orlando)
#2 Shawn Bradley (Philadelphia)
#3 Anfernee Hardaway (Golden State)
#4 Jamal Mashburn (Dallas)

1994 – again 2nd worst record and they move up to #4 in the lottery and wait to pick another NCAA standout in Donyell Marshall luckily avoiding these top 3 picks…

#1 Glenn Robinson (Milwaukee)
#2 Jason Kidd (Dallas)
#3 Grant Hill (Detroit)

Every year since has pretty much repeated these scenarios and while it is unfortunate that someone will be tapped by the Wolves to become another obscure footnote in history, the #1 pick will take comfort in that he is destined for greatness.
Other wolves #1 picks of note
1995 – Kevin Garnett (5)
1996 – Ray Allen (5 - immediately traded for Stephon Marbury)
1997 – Paul Grant (20)
1998 – Rasho Nesterovic (17)
1999 – Wally Szczerbiak (6)
2000 – Joe Smith
2001 – Joe Smith
2002 – Joe Smith
2003 – Ndudi Ebi (26)
2005 – Rashad McCants (14)
2006 – Brandon Roy (6)
2007 – Corey Brewer (7)
2008 – OJ Mayo (3)
2009 – Ricky Rubio (5)
2010 – Wesley Johnson (4)
2011 - ???? (2)

Truth be told, the real reason for the wolves run of bad luck was the pox that noted local sportswiter and demonic visigoth, Sid Hartman cast onto the local basketball team when the Minneapolis Lakers forced him from his position of authority with the team after he tried to trade Vern Mikkelson to Boston so that the Lakers could flounder and draft Bill Russel.

I would never advocate anything as extreme as murder (maybe banishment) but as long as the undying Sid walks the streets of Minneapolis, the wolves will continue to pay for ancient Lakers mistakes.
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Old 11-04-2018, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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2011 draft turned out to be one of the best ever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NBA_draft
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Old 11-04-2018, 02:25 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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2011 draft turned out to be one of the best ever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NBA_draft
Don't know if we can say best ever yet, but it definitely is the gold standard for this decade so far. 2012 was pretty damn good, too...
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Old 11-04-2018, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Wylie, Texas
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2011 draft turned out to be one of the best ever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NBA_draft
Had to go back and look at it...that was a real high quality draft! Didn't realize just how many good players came from that year.
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Old 12-07-2018, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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I called Jimmy Butler as that year's sleeper pick.
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