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Old 06-13-2011, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Atlanta,GA
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Championships matter to a degree. But it still doesn't discredit players who didn't earn one like Stockton, Malone, Miller, Barkley, etc. Championships are about the TEAM not the PLAYER. It just means the PLAYERS that earned one had good/great TEAMMATES.
The only thing I can agree with. Well said though.

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My bad. Postseason MVP is a given; the MVP trophy goes to the winning team. Dirk was the most deserving from that team; thus, his win of the trophy.
YES, DIRK!!! Well deserved. A man of character. Lebron can learn a few things from Dirk.

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Tomorrow is Lebron James Appreciation Day. Everyone gets to go home 12 minutes early.
HAHAHA...
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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I think this sums it up:

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Originally Posted by http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6657623/nba-finals-game-6-retro-diary
Passed along by a friend of mine in NBA circles: LeBron caved from the never-ending scrutiny (as brutal as any athlete has ever faced in the Internet era) and his shaky inner circle, which consists of one parent (his mother, who battled a ton of problems over the years), his high school friends (who assumed an inordinately crucial role in his life without any real experience), his agents (who never threw their bodies in front of "The Decision"), and Miami's management (who walked him into another fiasco with the Heat's Welcome Party). By all accounts, he's a genuinely nice and happy guy who just wants to be liked — he was never meant to be a villain, and as much as he tried to feed off the heat (no pun intended), once it piled up past a certain point, he broke. Maybe he felt that happening against the 2010 Celtics as well; maybe that's why he chose to play with Wade in the first place.

And maybe that's why, right now, he's in total denial. Even in the postgame presser, when he should have been devastated the same way Magic Johnson was distraught after coming up small in the 1984 Finals, LeBron was doing the Frank Drebin "Nothing to see here, please disperse" routine, bristling at the notion that he choked and taking shots at anyone who rooted against him. That's what you do when you're surrounded by enablers — you blame everyone else, and you never look within. He never understood that people only rooted against him because that's what you do when someone boasts before they've ever actually done anything.

Let's say you're in college and one of your buddies says, "See that girl over there? I'm taking her home tonight. And I'm doing this because I'm the funniest and best-looking guy in this room." And let's say he's COMPLETELY serious. Guess what you're doing if it doesn't happen? You're making fun of him. Relentlessly. Really, that's what 50 percent of the Miami-related vitriol was about; the other 50 percent was because LeBron tried to stack the deck by playing with his biggest rival (we didn't respect it), and because he broke Cleveland's hearts on national TV (we didn't like it). To this day, LeBron hasn't shown any real regret about last summer; that's the main reason everyone rooted against him. He couldn't handle it. He caved. And now we're here.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:30 AM
 
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I think this sums it up:
I loved that article. Simmons almost always nails it and this was right on.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC
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Nice read but the big difference...

The girl situation. Let's fast forward 10 months later. Would we still be making fun of them about that instance 10 months later? Hell No. There is no way anyone would have remembered it.
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Old 06-14-2011, 12:31 PM
 
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Nice read but the big difference...

The girl situation. Let's fast forward 10 months later. Would we still be making fun of them about that instance 10 months later? Hell No. There is no way anyone would have remembered it.
What girl situation?
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Old 06-14-2011, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Fort Mill, SC
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What girl situation?
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Let's say you're in college and one of your buddies says, "See that girl over there? I'm taking her home tonight. And I'm doing this because I'm the funniest and best-looking guy in this room." And let's say he's COMPLETELY serious. Guess what you're doing if it doesn't happen? You're making fun of him. Relentlessly. Really, that's what 50 percent of the Miami-related vitriol was about; the other 50 percent was because LeBron tried to stack the deck by playing with his biggest rival (we didn't respect it), and because he broke Cleveland's hearts on national TV (we didn't like it). To this day, LeBron hasn't shown any real regret about last summer; that's the main reason everyone rooted against him. He couldn't handle it. He caved. And now we're here
The bottom part of the article.
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Old 06-14-2011, 02:23 PM
 
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...because he wastes Macy's ad revenue

...because nobody in the third world countries will want the Heat championship attire

...because he immediately walks off the court without showing good sportsmanship to the other team

...because Chris Bosh looks like a dinosaur
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Old 06-14-2011, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Portlandia "burbs"
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LeBron gives an air of cockiness. But he is still young and will mature, just as Kobe has done in recent years.
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Old 06-14-2011, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Lake Norman, NC
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I'm actually indifferent now about Lebron.

I just passively root for continued failure for the Cavaliers (like they need any help doing it) following the rather childish actions and comments since James left for greener pastures.

The Owner up there in Cleveland is nothing more than a total jackwagon and he's getting his just dues now. HA!
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Old 06-14-2011, 06:47 PM
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Location: Fort Worth
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I'm sorry, I don't mean to pile on but I just have to post this....


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