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Old 06-04-2011, 07:02 PM
 
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I said after he went to the Heat, I really hope he never gets a ring. To me, that would be the ultimate justice--giving up on his home town, taking the easy way out, celebrating like they won a championship before they even played a game, saying they are going to win "4? 5? 6? 7?" rings, and then for him to not win anything, that to me would just be the definition of poetic justice. And then I watched them steam roll Philly, Boston & Chicago and I thought, damn, they are going to win it all. And after they won game 1 and were up big in game 2, I thought, ok, maybe he'll just get one ring but hopefully no more. And wouldn't you know it, they gave up on the game, again celebrated before they won anything, and now the series is 1-1, Dallas has home court advantage for the rest of the series, and maybe he won't get his ring this year and maybe he'll never get it. That's what I'm hoping for...

MJ won 6 rings because he learned how to play the game. Kobe won 5 because he learned how to play the game. It's not about dancing, it's not about going one on one and firing up bad shots, it's not about celebrating before you've done anything.
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Old 06-04-2011, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I lost respect for him when he left the Cavs to get a few more million dollars to play in Miami. When Lebron comes back to play for Cleveland, then I will tune back in.
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Old 06-04-2011, 08:01 PM
 
Location: San José, CA
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I lost respect for him when he left the Cavs to get a few more million dollars to play in Miami. When Lebron comes back to play for Cleveland, then I will tune back in.
He actually took less money to go to Miami. But I lost respect for him when he left the Cavs because he wanted to be Scottie Pippen.
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Wade is the leader because Lebron and Bosh gave it to him since it was HIS team prior.

Heat prior to Lebron/Bosh with better role players: 47-35; first round knock out
Heat with Lebron/Bosh with worse role players: 58-24; in NBA Championship 1-1.

Being a first round knockout is not what I consider successful...



A 15 minute interview on Sportscenter is more than just a "sportscenter report". For example, below was Shaq's 10+ minute "decision" on joining LA(starting around 1:40)...

YouTube - ‪"The Original Decision" Shaq to LA‬‏

Because it was Lebron and everyone thought they had him, his special (i.e. planned) stung that much harder when his decision was revealed.
Shaq and everyone else that has left their previous teams or retired might have a simple news conference but NOT something that is planned weeks in advance and scheduled at PRIME TIME. I was never a Lebron fan but I can't deny his talent; that being said, he is still one of the biggest ego-maniacs currently playing basketball and this was just a stunt by him to see how much attention he could get.
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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I said after he went to the Heat, I really hope he never gets a ring. To me, that would be the ultimate justice--giving up on his home town, taking the easy way out, celebrating like they won a championship before they even played a game, saying they are going to win "4? 5? 6? 7?" rings, and then for him to not win anything, that to me would just be the definition of poetic justice. And then I watched them steam roll Philly, Boston & Chicago and I thought, damn, they are going to win it all. And after they won game 1 and were up big in game 2, I thought, ok, maybe he'll just get one ring but hopefully no more. And wouldn't you know it, they gave up on the game, again celebrated before they won anything, and now the series is 1-1, Dallas has home court advantage for the rest of the series, and maybe he won't get his ring this year and maybe he'll never get it. That's what I'm hoping for...

MJ won 6 rings because he learned how to play the game. Kobe won 5 because he learned how to play the game. It's not about dancing, it's not about going one on one and firing up bad shots, it's not about celebrating before you've done anything.
Kobe won because he was surrounded by better players than Lebron. If you would have put Kobe on the team in Cleveland instead of Lebron, he too would have had an early playoff exit.
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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He actually took less money to go to Miami. But I lost respect for him when he left the Cavs because he wanted to be Scottie Pippen.
If you think about it, he really didn't take much less. Florida has no state tax, so it's just that much more in his pocket. I agree though, he left to go to a team where they could almost guarantee a trip deep into the playoffs if not winning it all.
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Old 06-05-2011, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Back and Forth FRANCE
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He actually took less money to go to Miami. But I lost respect for him when he left the Cavs because he wanted to be Scottie Pippen.
Many still consider Pippen a damn good player.
I personally think Cav fans should find someone else to compare him too.

Just in my opinion.

Lets be real Lebron is the player on the Heat.
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Old 06-05-2011, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Garden City, KS
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He's overrated. A lot of Cleveland fans (some not all) decided to root for Miami because of Lebron. You shouldn't like a team for one player. I'm a loyal Oklahoma City fan because they're the closest team to my hometown, not just because of KD.
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Old 06-05-2011, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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I'm from Cleveland. I grew up in Akron, BTW.

This goes back further than simply The Decision. There's no doubt Lebron quit on his team in the playoffs last year against the Celtics. Lebron can say, "No, that's corny" - er, whatever that means, but that's what happened. He completely quit. He stood on the sideline and watched the offense run through other players as if to say, "Hey, without me, you're terrible," regardless of the fact that we were in the midst of a heated playoff series with Boston. Dan Gilbert calls into question 2 of Lebron's games - I believe Games 3 and 5. I'm not entirely sure about both games as I'm not masochistic enough to watch them ever again, but there was one game where LeBron entirely quit and it maddened the entire city both when it happened and later on when he left. In Cleveland, we're used to losing but all we ask is that you give it your all. That wasn't his all. He refused to shoot, he turned the ball over constantly and he stood around waiting for things to happen.

So fast forward to the decision. Clevelanders actually thought he was going to re-sign. Could a local hero actually go on national television simply for the sake of breaking all of our hearts? No way, right? Except that's exactly what he did. And so much has been made of what a poor way to go about it that was that I don't really need to delve into it again.

Why wouldn't Clevelanders hate the guy? He knew he was leaving when he quit in the playoffs, his apprehension to honesty only allowed Cleveland to nab two late-first round picks and a trade exception, and now he's 3 wins away from giving Miami another title when that's what Cleveland has been begging for since 1964.

C'mon, it can't be that complicated.
Lebron quit or did he get tired and overwhelmed with the tall task of taking down the Celtics with little help.Game one of that series in Boston was led by Lebron James putting on one of the best performances in NBA history.The Cavs won the game and he was spent physically and mentally.People will say he quit but he is human and reacted as one.IMO
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Old 06-05-2011, 06:36 PM
 
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Lebron quit or did he get tired and overwhelmed with the tall task of taking down the Celtics with little help.Game one of that series in Boston was led by Lebron James putting on one of the best performances in NBA history.The Cavs won the game and he was spent physically and mentally.People will say he quit but he is human and reacted as one.IMO
He quit because deep down he knew he was leaving and wanted to use not winning a championship in Cleveland as an excuse.
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