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Old 07-19-2011, 12:32 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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Nope, not arguing the defense those couple of guys play. That said, those guys didn't stop Kobe, both would be pretty small to defend a guy the size of bird also. Birds closest contemporary would be dirk so who defends dirk?
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Old 07-19-2011, 12:32 PM
 
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except that there really aren't - especially when you consider the expansion in the size of the league and what that has done to talent distribution
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I was a Sixer fan back in the 80s so I hated Bird with a passion. But there is no doubt Bird would be just as dominant today as he was then. no question imo. Bird could put 40 up on any player from todays game. You can't appreciate how good he was simply by watching highlights of him, you had to see it to believe it. Bird WILLED the Celtics to win more than any player I have ever seen aside from MJ.

There aren't many players in today's game that have the heart of a Bird or MJ. They were the best because nobody was willing to work harder than they did.. no body.
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Wylie, Texas
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Nope, not arguing the defense those couple of guys play. That said, those guys didn't stop Kobe, both would be pretty small to defend a guy the size of bird also. Birds closest contemporary would be dirk so who defends dirk?

Tayshaun is 6-9 with a 7 foot wingspan. Posey was 6-8...I think they would be big enough to guard Bird, especially out on the perimeter. And as for who defends dirk???? is that a serious question??? surely you've watched guys guard dirk over the last 10 years or so? Stephen Jackson in 07? One of the many screwups of the Miami Heat in the Finals was not throwing Lebron on Dirk for a quarter, just to see what happens. Maybe Dirk torches Lebron like he was doing everyone else, maybe not...Lebron would have been a far better option than Chris Bosh...
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Wylie, Texas
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except that there really aren't - especially when you consider the expansion in the size of the league and what that has done to talent distribution

Good point...expansion really diluted the strength of teams...although the hope has to be that as new markets open up like China, then more talent will eventually start to trickle through to the NBA...
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:33 PM
 
Location: So California
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Todays players get sooo over rated. Bird was too good an offensive player for Posey or Prince or you name it. Its like saying Magic or Jordan couldnt do today what they did then.....its just not true.
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Old 07-19-2011, 02:08 PM
 
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Good point...expansion really diluted the strength of teams...although the hope has to be that as new markets open up like China, then more talent will eventually start to trickle through to the NBA...
I think we all agree on these points.

The Euro market in paticular has provided a number of players and no doubt there are going to be a lot more foreign players coming up in future decades.
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Old 07-19-2011, 02:15 PM
 
Location: spring tx
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Tayshaun is 6-9 with a 7 foot wingspan. Posey was 6-8...I think they would be big enough to guard Bird, especially out on the perimeter. And as for who defends dirk???? is that a serious question??? surely you've watched guys guard dirk over the last 10 years or so? Stephen Jackson in 07? One of the many screwups of the Miami Heat in the Finals was not throwing Lebron on Dirk for a quarter, just to see what happens. Maybe Dirk torches Lebron like he was doing everyone else, maybe not...Lebron would have been a far better option than Chris Bosh...
larry bird was to big and strong and his fundamentals where to strong for either of those guys to guard him one on one.

stephen jackson guards dirk? ohhhh you mean in the 2007 GS playoff series? yeah where stephen jackson played on him and everyone from barron davis to Kelenna Azubuike to Matt Barnes to Mike Dunleavy to Al Harrington to Mickael Pietrus at him on the weak side in double and triple teams? think about this for a second, jackson is a noted defender, barnes is considered a very good defender, pietrus is considered a very good defender, all these "good defenders" and the warriors where one of the WORST defensive teams in the league. why is that? on top of all that defense that "stephen jackson guards dirk with" he still put up 20 and 11 while at that time being one of the softest 7 footers in the game. bird was NOT soft and could shoot as well or better then dirk, rebounded just as well though shorter, passed MUCH better and defended leaps and bounds better then dirk. larry bird would eat stephen jackson for breakfast with a sprinkle of all those other guys on top!
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Old 07-19-2011, 02:19 PM
 
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I'd love to see Charles Barkley's response to the premise of this thread. He played in that era too and is incredibly insightful.

I personally feel his response would include several violations of the TOS.
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Old 07-19-2011, 02:26 PM
 
Location: The "Rock"
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Bird would have been fine... Just ask any of the "athletic" or "great" players he played against and they will tell you Bird was a BEAST!!! The "Hick From French Lick" could flat out play... period!!!
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